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cm0002@lemmy.worldOPMto Not *Not* the Onion@lemmy.cafe•[Meta] This is NOT NotTheOnionEnglish1·4 hours agoBruh, why are you so rude?
Lol it had found its way (via a different user) to the .ml meme comm where I picked it up for cross-posting. But yea, already upvoted there since it was on !lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world
Why am I cross-posting .ml content?
I cross-post from .ml to the nearest relevant non-.ml comm to reduce the influence of .ml comms and indirectly, the instance as a whole, to make it an easier decision for other instance admins to defederate because one key reason I identified that admins don’t want to defederate is because .ml still has some very large comms and some niche comms.
Some highlights from the link:
"Don’t worry guys, the Uyghur Genocide was REALLY just birth control! ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/30580167
“See! nobody died IN Tiananmen Square, just AROUND it, so it doesn’t count!!” ~ Davel, .ml admin https://lemmy.world/post/30673342
.ml admin, Nutomics continued transphobia https://lemmy.world/post/29222558 The original transphobic Comment from Nutomic: https://lemmy.world/post/18236068
“NK is actually good and anything counter to that is Western propaganda!” ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/31595035
General negative sentiment to other instances who haven’t “seen the way” yet ~davel, .ml admin https://lemmy.world/post/27426510
“If you don’t support Russia then you just don’t understand geopolitics” ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/27352415
And so so much documentation on clear heavy handed censorship and bias also on the link. So much I can’t even put them all here because this comment would be really long.
I believe the behavior of its admins (the main admins are Lemmy devs) does harm to the overall growth of the Lemmy-verse and maybe even the Thrediverse (since Lemmy kinda kicked off the Thrediverse) because of its association with the devs of Lemmy and their insistence to use .ml as their personal political platform to spread harmful propaganda
On the outside, bringing up Lemmy frequently leads to comments like “Lemmy? Isn’t that the place with a bunch of tankies?” Or “Tried Lemmy, but found it full of pro Russia crap so I left”. The best way forward from that I see is to either widely defederate from .ml like the rest of the Triad, or pressure them to put a fair and unbiased as possible admin team.
cm0002@lemmy.worldto The Democratic People's Republic of Tankiejerk@lemmy.world•WAOH LOOK AT THESE GREAT DEMOCRACIES19·21 hours agoIdk what you’re on about, those countries are literal utopia’s and respect all human rights, too bad every single western country and media organization around the world are perfectly colluding to ensure we don’t see the truth! Sad. Big/s
cm0002@lemmy.worldOPto MeanwhileOnGrad@sh.itjust.works•Dessalines, .ml admin, head Lemmy dev: "How DARE you call out one of our propaganda posters! That's Rule 1 BIGOTRY! REMOVED!"English11·1 day agoThat’s not actually that simple of a question, so don’t feel bad lol
It’s not a code issue, but Lemmy is written in Rust and while being a pretty decent language, it is also a bit of a difficult one to master. So there’s just not a whole lot of open source capable Rust devs out there who can take on such a commitment. If Lemmy had been written in any number of popular languages, like JavaScript, C#, Python etc it probably would have been forked awhile ago just because of the .ml issues
If it’s a Lemmy specific issue, why is being federated with .ml more important than the health of the wider verse?
There are a few reasons that crop up, 1) .ml still has some very niche comms that haven’t been created elsewhere and heavyish traffic (which I hope to fix with the boycotting) and 2) if an instance “burns the bridge” there’s concern that dessalines would take it personally and be less likely to help an instance admin on technical issues
Many think that migrating to PieFed long term will be the way forward which is an alternative to Lemmy without any political baggage. That or someone rewrites Lemmy in a more opensource friendly language and then it can be a drop in replacement for instance admins lol
But yea, there’s concern that this Tankie culture they cultivate as currently preventing wider uptake and damaging the outside rep of the Threadiverse
cm0002@lemmy.worldOPto MeanwhileOnGrad@sh.itjust.works•Dessalines, .ml admin, head Lemmy dev: "How DARE you call out one of our propaganda posters! That's Rule 1 BIGOTRY! REMOVED!"English12·1 day agoWelcome! This comm serves as a place for documentation of tankies on the Threadiverse. My megathread here has a slightly longer intro
But, in a nutshell, lemmy.ml is one of 3 instances that are mostly run by Tankies (Those who simp for authoritarian governments that merely claim to be communistic (China/NK) or otherwise “fighting against the evil west” (Russia)) known as the “Tankie Triad”. So they’ll do things like spread the Russian narrative that Ukraine is “full of Nazis”.
They’ll also censor you (and later, ban) if you post things they deem to be against their “ideology” under one of 2 instance “catch-all” rules. Rule 1 - “No Bigotry” or Rule 2 - "Be respectful.
Yours got censored under catchall rule 1, no bigotry.
The unfortunate problem with .ml is that it also has the notoriety as being the "dev run instance " as well, so most instances are quite hesitant to defederate from them, unlike the other 2 instances (Hexbear and Lemmygrad) who are largely considered to be worse than .ml and widely defederated from. The main devs, dessalines and Nutomic are, unfortunately, hardcore Tankies. Nearly all censoring actions on .ml though are done by dessalines and another admin, davel.
So the next best thing we can do as users is a general call to “boycott” their instance and not post comments or posts on a .ml comm. To choose to post to and grow other alternative comms that are off-.ml, no matter how big the comm on .ml looks (this also just leads to a better overall healthier Threadiverse). And to document things as we go, like I’ve done here
Lol, I just made a meme the other day on this from a parents perspective
Welcome to the club! Have fun printing the night away lol
Aww yea, the Threadiverse is in the big leagues now!
Do you WANT restricted access‽ Better do what the
scammlegit support person wants!
Unfortunately, Chuck Mangione was the third :(
I think your instance might be a tad behind on federation, I had fixed it like within a minute after posting lol
cm0002@lemmy.worldOPto MeanwhileOnGrad@sh.itjust.works•Dessalines, .ml admin, head Lemmy dev: "How DARE you call out one of our propaganda posters! That's Rule 1 BIGOTRY! REMOVED!"English13·1 day agoLol reading it wrong, that’s the comment that @SomethingBlack@lemmy.world wrote that dessalines removed
cm0002@lemmy.worldto Technology@lemmy.world•Grindr Won’t Let Users Say 'No Zionists'English9·1 day agoIn fact, forget the app
cm0002@lemmy.worldto Technology@lemmy.world•Grindr Won’t Let Users Say 'No Zionists'English31·1 day agoŻ̵̢̥͚͈̰͈̾́̂̓͠i̶̟͌̽̈́̀̐ó̵̹͒̐n̴̟͍̙̘͑̽̐̀͝͠͝i̶̙̳̱̼͋̂͆̔͝ͅs̷̨̰̻͍̞̀̀̅͜t̴̨̍ in zalgo seems rather fitting 😂
Somebody’s grandma is gonna buy that for their grandson and the cycle will continue
Ţ̷̡͎̞̬͓̖̪̩̏̽̋̒͠͝h̸̫̰̼̋̎͜͝ë̷͓̩̾̋̃͗̇̚ ̵̢̛̺̜̗̙͈͉̲̙̽̉̍̐͜c̴͚̅̕y̴̪͇͉͇̫̤̖̜̙͆̽̏͒̈́̉̾̄́͑c̵͚̥̗͚̝̻̩̩̀̐̄͆̂̍̿͂̏̋ͅl̵̹̲͉̗̭͙͌͆͑̒̿͑̑̔͌e̸̡̡͔͍̜͍̦̘̣̥͋̐͗̂̈̔̑̌̀ ̵̼͉̜̙̞̍͑́̒͑̈̾͝͝Ṁ̶̲̞̘̣͈͛́͂̊̈̋U̷͇̣̫̭̤̾̆͌͂̕͝S̸̢̠͔̠̠̳̆͑̓͆̿̃͜͜Ṯ̷̢͔̙̩͉̌͒̂̚ ̶̨̯͚̠̫̹̰͆̓͒̋ć̷̛̫̘͂̂́̆̃͜ȏ̸̡̘͕͈͖͍̝̈́̏̓̇̇͘͝n̸̛̖̻͚̻̩̗̦̦̿͆̏̓̋̕t̷̯͌̋͗͌̃̍͑i̷̛̟̠̪̲̦̳͌́̀̋͒͠n̵̻̰̫̮͇̄̂͋̽̇̌͝ű̶͕̤̣̪̞͎̜̦̄ę̷̯̤͍͗̀̊ ̸̲̲̮̿̽̕͝t̵̢͔̜̰̩̼͒͗̍h̷̢̛̪̩̖͖̬̝̼̑͋̑̍͌̿͝͝r̴̼̀̉͑̽̐̈́̔͘͜͝ͅö̵̼́͐͝ư̵̫̟͙̞̰̥̗̈́͛́͘̚g̵̫̳̔͠h̸̨̖͙̥̆̈̀̾̏̆͊͝ͅ ̶̢̖̰̥̙̦̪͔̅͐͑̾̉̈́̆̕͜͝ͅţ̶̻͙͔͎͉͐̈̊̓͒̈́̀̕͝ĥ̸̡̧̻̫͔̙͓̝͉͂͊̓͝e̸̢͎̜̙̅̍͐̊̎ ̸͇͕̱̜́ͅg̵̡̡̤̠̪̼̠̹̱̙̓e̵̢̡͙̞̟̯̩̳̼͐n̶̳̭͂͋̀́̌͌͘̕é̵͚̙͖͈̜̌́͌̿͋͑̕͝ͅr̷̛̮̱͉͔̓̌̈̎̾͝͝a̷̰͙̘̜̜̩͍͗t̴̢̞̱̗͔͖̙́̄͗͌̕i̷̳̹̞̥̞̿̾̈́̄͝o̸̠̼̱͓͔̮̲̲̍̔͠ń̵̨̡̘̗̘̩̤̤̝̒̌̿ͅs̵̛̖̫͕̩̬̩̩̍̋̎͆̉̓͌̚͝ ̷̲̖̐̊̈̆̾͊̄̆͠f̵͎̯̹̜͉̝̽͌͛ó̴̡̱̱͈̳͎̥̂̄̐̒͛̈́r̷̢͙̝̺͗̉͐̕̚ͅ ̷̡̒̆̈́a̵̡̞̲͛͗̌l̵̫͕̔̇̂͐͝͠l̷̤̖̝̣̺͎͠ ̷̗͇̜̗̩̾̽͊̈́̅̈́̈́͘͝͠ë̷̡͓̫͍̩̗̗̙͇͔̍̈́̀͑͠ẗ̵͈̫̫͖̰̣́̑̔͊̑̓e̷̜͋̐̍͆̀̚r̴̘̅̒̒̆̐̀̒̿͘n̴̨̪̘͍͙͓̟̜͔̐̊͊i̸̧̩̕t̶̡̢̘̪̫͖̩̝̺͈̿̂̉y̴̧̙͙̩̲͈͐
Donald Trump’s campaign teased some surprise guests at tonight’s rally and the first one is former professional wrestler Hulk Hogan, who wore a Trump tank top, red and yellow boa and held an American flag as he walked out on stage. “Usually when I’m at MSG I’m bodyslamming giants,” said Hogan. “The energy in here is something like I’ve never felt.”
“You know something Trumpmaniancs, I don’t see no stinking Nazis in here,” he said, referring to the infamous 1939 Nazi rally at Madison Square Garden. “We know Trump is the only one who can fix America today.”
I have 0 sympathy for anyone of influence who helped Drumpy get elected
AND they’re easily frozen, good for long term storage!
cm0002@lemmy.worldOPMto South Park@adultswim.fan•'South Park' Exposes Trump's 'Teeny Tiny' Manhood in Shocking PremiereEnglish141·1 day agoTrey and Matt for prez '28 bitches!!
Ten Commandments in schools ❌
South Park part of required curriculum ✅
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