• Novice_Idiot@lemmy.wtf
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    6 days ago

    Can we collectively decide not to respect American intellectual property laws to really hit the tech sector where it hurts? We don’t get that many physical goods over here but most of our software is American owned. I advocate for not paying American tech companies anymore.

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      6 days ago

      EU regulations that can be triggered in response to tariffs include an option to make that completely legal

      Edit because I’m getting asked for a source: EU Anti Coercion Instrument that got passed in 2021 and came into effect in December 2023: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=OJ%3AL_202302675

      Specifically Annex I, paragraph 7:

      ANNEX I

      Union response measures pursuant to Article 8

      […]

      1. The imposition of restrictions on the protection of intellectual property rights or their commercial exploitation, in relation to rightholders that are nationals of the third country concerned, which may amount, as necessary, to the non-performance of applicable international obligations with respect to trade-related aspects of intellectual property rights.

      This applies to copyright and patents, but not trademarks as far as I know.

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      6 days ago

      If we start ignoring the laws, we are no better than Trump and his clowns clan. Go for the alternatives instead. Also, If you keep using the US software they still get all anvertisement and telemetry which is more valuable to them than the software itself anyway.

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      6 days ago

      We need our own tech stack, that is at least verifyable. It’s due time to kick out the American tech giants from government projects etc.

      With America possibly becoming the new Russia it is just not safe to rely on Microsoft, Apple, Aws etc.

      We need an Europan open source stack.

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            3 days ago

            That’s worse. If someone was telling me about “google or microsoft stacks” without explaining what it is, I would laugh.

            Are you talking about OS, mobile OS, GUI, web, SaaS, APIs, services, subscriptions, servers, cloud, VMs, …? What the fuck is a stack? Stack is a term that has been stolen by web devs and means nothing anymore.

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                3 days ago

                You tell me. What is a Google stack? What is a Microsoft stack? The other guy was talking about a “tech stack” which practically means nothing.

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                  Google’s stack is the services they provide, so google docs is an example, google drive, hangouts, gmail, that bunch

                  And the mirror from microsoft like m$ word, outlook, their cloud i forget the name of, minishit teams

                  That type of shit, what else would i be talking about? It was very clear from the beginning

  • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
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    6 days ago

    American here: genuinely, go for it. If you want to be even more highly targeted, you can also take a page out of Canada’s book: they’re encouraging people to target things that are produced in red states specifically, in addition to a general push for a boycott. Bourbon (from Kentucky), for instance.

  • 👍Maximum Derek👍@discuss.tchncs.de
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    6 days ago

    While tens of thousands of people have joined Facebook groups in Sweden and Denmark calling for no longer buying American, Norwegian company Haltbakk Bunkers has announced that it will stop supplying US military vessels with fuel.

    This first US company they (and everyone) needs to boycott is Meta.

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      6 days ago

      I’m in Canada and Facebook is huge for my business. We get more bang out of a free social media post than paying for advertisements anywhere.

      I fricking HATE IT.

      On a personal level, I almost never use facebook. I refuse to put it on my phone and really only use it not to post stuff for the business - which I do through a 3rd party social media app.

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        FB is huge in Canada for personal stuff too, me and my friends do not post meal pic or vacation or things like this, but damn marketplace and some hobbies group are strong there. Just the “Made in Canada” FB group grew from 50’000 members to 1.1 million in less than a month.

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          6 days ago

          FB can be easily replaced with Lemmy, it’s just a question of age/generation I guess

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            6 days ago

            no not really, its a totally different thing. you cant follow people here, nobody here uses their real name, and you can’t limit visibility of content to just friends. marketplace is also not a thing, and that feature is not just yet another community

  • AidsKitty@lemmy.world
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    5 days ago

    Guess they aren’t really our allies after all. The truth always comes out eventually.

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      5 days ago

      The truth always comes out eventually.

      Yea, your comment history reveals you to be a twat.

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        5 days ago

        You can call me names. If their population’s intention is to harm us economically then maybe they aren’t great allies?

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          5 days ago

          It was meant to be descriptive

          Twat: a stupid or annoying person

          Their populations intentions are to

          1. not to support an overtly fascist regime
          2. applying tit for tat as a game theoretic approach to US bullying

          However, the US has never been a great ally for anyone else. Historically they abandon nations whose use for them has expired. Economically and strategically they treat their so called allies as subjects, now even more so than before.

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            4 days ago

            Just own it. Stop pretending that engaging in bullying insulting behavior is somehow different because YOU did it. You’re a bully and it’s ok, I’ve met a lot of bullies and you won’t be the last. You hate anyone that disagrees with you but i don’t hate you.

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              4 days ago

              I am not a bully for insulting you, unless you mean the archaic usage of bully:

              a fine chap

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                4 days ago

                Just own it. If you insult and degrade others for having a different opinion than you yes, you are a bully. It’s ok. Your hate is making you powerful.

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                  4 days ago

                  Lol okay. I do not really care if I insult people whose opinions I do not respect.

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    6 days ago

    As always: the power of the working class resides in work. Organize your workplace. It doesn’t matter whether you stop buying cola, real impact will come if your workplace stops buying the overpriced 100k€ machine imported from the US tech sector. THAT’S where you really hurt them. Consumer expenditure is a minuscule amount of relevant key US exports.

    Organize your workplace, join a union and create a local branch. Join an existing revolutionary socialist party. Create mutual aid networks in your neighbourhoods.

  • Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    6 days ago

    Support your local breweries and buy their sodas and not coca cola <3 I do this and ngl Oettinger cola-mix and Riegele Spezi are amazing

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    6 days ago

    Here’s to hoping trump tariff war makes those stupid American pick-up trucks a lot more expensive to buy in EU. I hope the douchebags that bought them before have to pay way higher prices for parts now.