I’m getting to the point where I find conversations that boil down to “White Supremacy is bad” is getting really tiring. It’s like a solved equation. Yes it’s bad, but at a certain point we need to begin to think new thoughts. I just don’t want to hear another PoC tell me that “and the reason why XYZ is bad, is because of racism” OF COURSE IT IS DUDE! WHAT THE FUCK NOW!?! WHAT DO WE DO? HOW DO WE MOVE PAST THIS IN SOME WAY?
My frustration is often with liberals who don’t understand racists revel in their racism, don’t care about hypocrisy, and think we can simply explain how racism is bad will change the racists’ minds. We all know this shit and we’ve known for decades. They know and don’t care. They actively decide they’d rather steal shit and hurt people.
And even worse is they think if we change whoever is on top, it will end racism. Libs will advocate for this immediately after they’ve mentioned systemic racism.
Hampton said it best: you don’t fight white supremacy with black supremacy. You fight it with socialism. But liberals wouldn’t be liberals if they advocated for communism, which they equate with fascism.
(I definitely think I just did the thing you mentioned in explaining racism lol…hope it’s not too irritating)
I think part of it might just be that there are people who legit just don’t think its a thing and therefore they just get used to telling people white supremacy is bad.
Which reminds me of a conversation two of my coworkers were having. I didn’t really catch quite everything that was said, but to summarize one coworker (conservative POC) was talking about how an older POC woman was debating him on ideas of relationships and family building. Her argument seemed to have ended with “gender roles and the idea of traditional families is rooted in white supremacy” to paraphrase his paraphrasing of it lol. And my other coworker (liberal or at least more lib leaning POC) agreed with him that that was a weird position to have. I kept wonder if the woman that brought up white supremacy even attempted to explain why that is, so I kept wanting to jump in on the conversation to explain a bit, but I was busy talking with someone else about something work related so I ended up not being able to.
Anyway, what I want to say is that there are still a lot of people who can’t make the connection and my hope is that people who bring up “thing is bad because of white supremacy” can educate people on why. For example, in this case if the person making that argument didn’t really have the time to explain why white supremacy informs a lot of conservative opinions on gender roles and trad families then at the very least recommend reading someone like Bell Hooks, who I think pretty eloquently lays it all out, especially in Will To Change.
Of course I can also see the hang up possibly coming from trying to explain what we do about it because a lot of the same people that say this also end up being massive libs who thouth that the US having a black president was going to change things and the only reason it didn’t was because racists got more racist and not that Obama was upholding one wing of American fascism.
I’m getting to the point where I find conversations that boil down to “White Supremacy is bad” is getting really tiring. It’s like a solved equation. Yes it’s bad, but at a certain point we need to begin to think new thoughts. I just don’t want to hear another PoC tell me that “and the reason why XYZ is bad, is because of racism” OF COURSE IT IS DUDE! WHAT THE FUCK NOW!?! WHAT DO WE DO? HOW DO WE MOVE PAST THIS IN SOME WAY?
I guess i’m just tired of having racism explained to me. I feel like hades.
My frustration is often with liberals who don’t understand racists revel in their racism, don’t care about hypocrisy, and think we can simply explain how racism is bad will change the racists’ minds. We all know this shit and we’ve known for decades. They know and don’t care. They actively decide they’d rather steal shit and hurt people.
And even worse is they think if we change whoever is on top, it will end racism. Libs will advocate for this immediately after they’ve mentioned systemic racism.
Hampton said it best: you don’t fight white supremacy with black supremacy. You fight it with socialism. But liberals wouldn’t be liberals if they advocated for communism, which they equate with fascism.
(I definitely think I just did the thing you mentioned in explaining racism lol…hope it’s not too irritating)
Nah you’re good. You at least end with Hampton. Hampton as you’re closer is never a bad thing 😀
I think part of it might just be that there are people who legit just don’t think its a thing and therefore they just get used to telling people white supremacy is bad.
Which reminds me of a conversation two of my coworkers were having. I didn’t really catch quite everything that was said, but to summarize one coworker (conservative POC) was talking about how an older POC woman was debating him on ideas of relationships and family building. Her argument seemed to have ended with “gender roles and the idea of traditional families is rooted in white supremacy” to paraphrase his paraphrasing of it lol. And my other coworker (liberal or at least more lib leaning POC) agreed with him that that was a weird position to have. I kept wonder if the woman that brought up white supremacy even attempted to explain why that is, so I kept wanting to jump in on the conversation to explain a bit, but I was busy talking with someone else about something work related so I ended up not being able to.
Anyway, what I want to say is that there are still a lot of people who can’t make the connection and my hope is that people who bring up “thing is bad because of white supremacy” can educate people on why. For example, in this case if the person making that argument didn’t really have the time to explain why white supremacy informs a lot of conservative opinions on gender roles and trad families then at the very least recommend reading someone like Bell Hooks, who I think pretty eloquently lays it all out, especially in Will To Change.
Of course I can also see the hang up possibly coming from trying to explain what we do about it because a lot of the same people that say this also end up being massive libs who thouth that the US having a black president was going to change things and the only reason it didn’t was because racists got more racist and not that Obama was upholding one wing of American fascism.