• Erika3sis [she/her, xe/xem]@hexbear.net
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    22 days ago

    SA in SW feels unnecessary

    Sexual assault in sex work “feels unnecessary”…? Well, yeah, all SA is unnecessary, it’s a horrible thing to do to someone…

    You can portray power dynamics and make the audience hate

    OK, so this is a work of fiction depicting a sex worker getting sexually assaulted, then? The power dynamic between SW and client, SW and pimp, SW and police?

    the empire in other ways without taking it to such a disgusting place

    The empire…? So this is an anti-imperialist story? Is it like depicting the precarity of migrant sex work, and how this industry is created by imperialism?

    Vader wouldn’t tolerate that shit

    I AM ONCE AGAIN ASKING ANGLOPHONES TO ADOPT KANJI SPECIFICALLY FOR WRITING ACRONYMS

    Edit: Obviously it’s my problem for not reading the username and not connecting Andor to Star Wars

    • Des [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.net
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      21 days ago

      and also too many are sucked in with the “they have cool ships and gear”

      yes I too love disposable poorly trained infantry hordes and fragile spacecraft designed for wave tactics

      vs combined arms spec-ops teams and multi-species highly competent space forces

  • dragongloss [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.net
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    17 days ago

    cw: expanding upon SA in the scene mentioned in the tweet, spoilers for episode 3 of Andor season 2

    spoiler

    I just finished that episode, and the presence of that scene isn’t the worst one I’ve seen, it wasn’t overly graphic, but you understood what was happening. We all know SA is used as a lazy motivator for a man’s revenge because “his woman” was violated. This didn’t seem like that, although I haven’t seen Episode 4 yet, so they certainly could go down that route. I hope not. At the end of episode 3, everyone on that ship seemed traumatized. You see it in all the actor’s faces.

    I think the inclusion of this scene is to show that there are opportunists working under a fascist regimes that abuse real life undocumented workers all the time. The imperial officer knows about her undocumented status, he says this in the episode, he uses the threat of deportation to try and get what he wants. When that doesn’t work he gets more aggressive and violent. Bix fights back. Kills her assailant. All the characters already have established motivators for fighting against the empire. Bix doesn’t and didn’t need a man to rescue her and certainly doesn’t need anyone to “take revenge” on her behalf.

    Maybe episode 4 will explore more about how SA affects women, we will see.

  • Damarcusart [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    22 days ago

    SA is usually used in fiction just for pure empty shock value, it isn’t about how it affects women, 90% of the time it is just used to “inspire” the men in the story to seek revenge. So usually I’d agree with this statement of it not belonging in a work of fiction.

    However, context does matter, and it does just seem like this guy is mad that his cool TV fascists are doing actual fascist things instead of just being “badass” or whatever.

  • Goblinmancer [any]@hexbear.net
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    22 days ago

    Also why he bring up Vader at all when Vader DOESNT EVEN APPEAR ON Andor at all. Like hes expecting Vader to literally know everything and teleport just to force choke a honestly pretty low ranking imperial officer.

    Like tbh Vader would not have any appearances that show him directly condone SA because Disney probably wont want their le epic toy figure that ends up in jedi heaven to do that, which is why vader/force users dont really show up in Andor! It would cause a huge tonal dissonance unless they are handled carefully.

  • MiraculousMM [he/him, any]@hexbear.netM
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    22 days ago

    SWT has had the wildest arc from pretty standard mild-mannered SW youtuber who made a pretty good Vader short film, to full-blown right-wing grifter, who’s openly a Trump and Andrew Tate fan. He makes ragebait videos and tweets and starts culture war nonsense over any SW story that isn’t nostalgia bait kiddie garbage. He complained about Andor S1 having bricks and screws. I’m not even joking. On top of all that, he makes AI films with the original trilogy characters and tries to pass them off as Better Than Disney™

    Dude is a bottom feeding putrid sack of shit and I just want him to fucking GO AWAY

  • acab_means_cop_Dva [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    22 days ago

    Content Warning: Expanding on topics in the post title, fictional coercion

    As if the Star Wars fandom couldn’t get more pathetic

    A 3+ million sub youtuber who has made their whole personality being a Star Wars-guy has not experienced or has no working memory of the original radio play(1981) that accompanied the og Star Wars where the interrogation of Leia is expanded in grisly detail. Wherein the movie the scene mercifully cuts to black with a door closing behind the torture droid with the scary needle, it appears it was always the intention to portray the scene and the writers had in mind what occurred off screen.

    spoiler

    The full Death Star Leia interrogation scene

    I’m not actually going to listen to it again. But the theme was present in the original movie and it’s even a little wild what you could get away with implying in a film and still keep a PG rating in 1977. But I guess I’m just trying to cancel Darth Vader.

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    21 days ago

    I can excuse destroying an entire planet and everyone on it, but I draw the line at SA.

    – Darth Vader, probably