• seejur@lemmy.world
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      5 days ago

      Next time an american speaks about “muh first amendment”, “USA only free speech country in the world” bullshit, show them this

      • MisanthropiCynic@lemm.ee
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        The problem is it cuts both ways. The Democrats saying they want hate speech to not be protected and Nazi propaganda to be censored is just the flipside of the same coin.

        Either you have free speech or you don’t

        • BakerBagel@midwest.social
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          There is a massive difference between allowed to say my government is doing something wrong, and being allowed to say “gas all the kikes”. One is criticism of authority, which is good. The other is hate speech, which is bad. You can absolutely have one without the other.

          • MisanthropiCynic@lemm.ee
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            5 days ago

            There is no difference between those two phrases if you actually have free speech

            And in fact, saying “I voted for Donald Trump”, is way more offensive to me than saying “kill everyone in Gaza”

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              Every freedom ends where freedoms of others are infringed. That includes every freedom, let it be freedom of movement (you can go wherever, but not someone else’s house), freedom of expression (you can express yourself however, unless that expression instills hatred towards others, inflicts trauma on kids etc. etc.) and yes, also freedom of speech (You can say anything, unless what you do is calling for violence, attacks someone etc.).

              Some of you US guys really don’t understand how freedom in a society works.