• hddsx@lemmy.ca
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    8 days ago

    I really appreciate your condescending tone.

    First of all, let’s put this into perspective here. The election of Harris or the re-election of Biden would have meant the continuance of the Republic. The signs were there before Trump was re-elected and to ignore them is, to put it lightly, shortsighted. Now that Trump has indeed been re-elected, we can be more specific:

    • The complete erosion of due process
    • The gutting of the federal government that /directly/ affects the lives of people world wide and /indirectly/ affects the livelihood of many Americans
    • Blantant bribery and corruption in the executive branch
    • National security issues stemming from the lack of security protocols from DOGE
    • The access to data by an unelected official by someone not confirmed by the Senate with more power than a confirmed or elected official
    • The direct attack on states, institutions, and the free press
    • The continuing attack on the right to prompt and preventive medical care, especially concerning abortion
    • The complete and utter destruction of the economy at the whim of the President
    • The complete flaunting of the rule of law.

    At no point did I mention that Biden, Harris, or any of the Democrats were good candidates. Neither did I mention that I am a Democrat or a Republican. For the record, I don’t have a party. So again, I really appreciate your condescending tone. But, the reality is, not voting is also an affirmative choice to affect the election. By not showing up to the polls, you have indicated your support or indifference to the listed points above. Like it or not, you are responsible. It’s not “Trump”, by the way, it’s everything his administration has done to erode the rights of Americans. This would not have happened under a Biden or Harris administration.

    Your attitude is also “I’ll let the world go to shit if I can’t get better”. It is sophomoric at best. Nobody said that the people could not continue to fight for improvements under a Biden or Harris administration - we can. But, llike science and all things reasonable, we have to choose the best option we have while we continue to find better. And Harris was the best option we had at the time.

    Or, perhaps in your language:

    Do you find Gaza, the economy, and the state of health care better now?

    • jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Hartis was not the best option we had. Thats a classic logical fallacy.

      Lets get a few things straight from the get go: idgaf about you. I idgaf if you’re upset with my language choice. And i certainly dgaf what your political ideology is.

      You wrote a lot of nonsense to basically say:

      My logic is infallible despite empirical results demonstrating that my logical reasoning is incorrect.

      Whatever Spock 🖖, Im condensing to you morons because you keep making the same mistakes repeatedly and it results in the fucking outcome you’re experiencing right now with trump.

      Trying to make the argument that a genocidal candidate is electable to a anti war, pro human rights, anti death penalty population is fucking hilarious. It doesnt matter what fucking window dressings you slap onto your argument, aka lesser evil stupidity, its still fucking hilariously delusional. Its basically the same as trying to make the argument 0+0 = 7. Here is the venn diagram of the two positions: ( . ) ( . ). Oooh your results are boobs! But sadly no overlap. Which is what you need for votes.

      Never mind all her other issues w/ respect to the economic problems of the middle class. Also results in ( . ) ( . ) btw. See the pattern here? Vance at least can make omelets, at least according to his ad. ( ( ) ). No boobs sadly from that ad though :(. I wonder if trump got any votes for vance’s lip service to middle class issues?

      Economically trump is doing exactly what his base wants with tarrifs. It doesnt matter if you think hes doing the wrong thing. You’re not his base. You werent going to vote for him anyways. ( ( ) ). Fuck another goatse for trump. Dudes on a roll. Grabbing votes everywhere.

      Harris’ (as a proxy for all you idiots) problem is she didnt do what her base wants. It doesn’t matter if you think she is better than the arbitrary position that trump is. The people harris needed the votes from werent going to vote for trump. Nor would they vote for bush. And yet we saw her parading around with cheney and promising to choose a fucking Republican cabinet member. Fucking ( . ) ( . ) again. God damnit normally i love having this amount of boobs around.

      So yeah you morons lost the election willfully and stupidly by even giving credence to the idea that harris was ever fucking electable. She had a window of about 3 weeks in August were she could have but she burned it basically out of the door by fucking over Muslim Americans, shitting on the middle class with her policy platform and then basically spent September and October pouring gasoline onto the fucking fire she and biden started.

      People dont care about your partisan nonsense. Its what you put forward as your platform. And sadly when you put forward a platform of we dont give a shit about anyone’s suffering its unsurprising those suffering didnt bother showing up. ( . ) ( . ), remember?

      You are the reason the democratic party’s approval rating is historically low, not the people who didnt show up for harris.

      So if you want to stop being condescended to then you might want to start by shutting the fuck up for a change.

      Go fuck cheney or something to keep yourself occupied idgaf as long as I dont have to deal with your inane prattle on how your voting strategy of the lesser evil was in any way rational.

      Let me make it simple for you, harris being less shitty of a candidate wouldnt have changed your (lesser evil, ( . ) ( . ), trump < you/harris < others) vote but it certainly would have changed the vote for others (no support for a genocide, pro working class, ( ( ) ) ). Amazing how being Inclusive seems to be a winning strategy in a winner takes all system.

      Unless of course you’re pro genocide or corporate greed. Then you’re just a shit stain like harris at which point: ( . ) ( . ). Q. E. D.

      Otherwise, your problem isnt with me, or the people who didnt show up. Its with harris and the dnc. And I direct you to their current behavior regarding hogg.

      Every metric that has come out of the last cycle demonstrates that you were wrong.

      Welcome to reality. Enjoy hitting the rocks (your list of issues w/ trumps behavior) on the way down.