• NotLemming@lemm.ee
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    4 days ago

    I think trump is doing all this to force Ukraine into giving up the wealth of their country for nothing. In short, trump is raping a country which is already on it’s knees. They’ll be a vassal state of the us rather than Putin, unless Putin makes a better offer. Then he’ll crow about how great he made America.

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    4 days ago

    When you stop holding international laws when it doesnt work for you “see the zionist project” and then try to force it when it work for you, “see iran sanction and russia sanction” then now you get into a situation where a powerful government stop to pretend and ask “why i am doing this for other countries when i can take the money for myself”

    European has supported the united state atrocity fully knowing they are committing illegal and war crimes, “see Iraq war” it is surprising to see these leader being shocked because any one with brain cell can tell you not to trust the US or any other country for that matter and always have plan b, c, to z.

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    6 days ago

    its so funny how opposite this is to reagan as well. preregan conservatives are so different from reagan conservatives who are so different from maga conservatives. its nuts.

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    5 days ago

    Well. That’s it then.

    Doesn’t matter what the terrorists in charge say. Real America should double down on support for our friends in Ukraine.

    Funding. Supplies. Volunteer work. Combat footage analysis. Supportive memes and propaganda. Offensive hacking of Russian assets for teh lulz. Whatever we can do.

    How do we find the helpers here?

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      4 days ago

      America should double down support for the Ukrainian regime that shot and killed unarmed pro-separatist protestors on film with some of those being shot at, having their hands up with this occurring even before Russian war criminal Igor Girkin ignited everything further? A strange albeit sadly common take.

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        3 days ago

        You’re right, governments have done bad things to people before, so we should just deliver a smaller sovereign nation of human beings over to expansionist Russia’s butchers.

        Conveniently that’s suddenly something we should’ve done all along, because tantrum-orange and his owners say so. (I’m sure it has nothing to do with trying to make a play for raw minerals multinational corpos are hungry for.)

        Surely Pooty will stop after butchering and pillaging just one neighbor. Just one country full of people, bro, then the world will finally know peace, bro! /s

        This isn’t how it worked in history class. So yeah, we’re all for supporting a country’s right to defend itself from aggression, which will at least leave a chance to sort out the rest later.

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      4 days ago

      The US did halt lend lease shipments to the USSR in the middle of Stalingrad in order to support actions in Tunisia.

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        4 days ago

        That’s a very different context and you know it. That’s resource scarcity and triage. What’s happening now is we’re switching teams to the bad guys.

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          4 days ago

          Yes, I am quite aware. US cut off intelligence to Ukraine and are planning to end sanctions with Russia which is as if the Americans stop cooperation with the Soviets completely during WW2 and gave lend-lease to the Nazis instead.

          I personally see Russian conflict with Ukraine to be more grey vs grey considering that there is footage of Ukrainian troops mowing down pro-Russian protesters with guns in post-Maidan Mariupol (not as bad as Russia’s Bucha atrocity I admit) but to each their own.