The advice isn’t about reducing the number of Teslas. It’s about helping someone get out of owning one. Also, that money doesn’t go to Elon, it goes to the seller, so to some people, they might consider that part a wash.
What’s wrong with owning one? Its a car and we can assume the owner has a need for it (obligatory “Fuck cars!”). It’s the buying of one with the knowledge we have now that is the issue.
Edit: I see a few downvotes so I must have said something wrong. What am I still not understanding?
It’s also an overpriced “luxury” vehicle, a terrible one with a boatload of recalls and recurring design issues. How long before we consider owning one to be like owning a Daewoo or Pinto?
We’ve also known what their CEO is about for a while now. Years in fact. And that same CEO is dismantling the US government and killing people with his actions. I think a lot of us see it this way: If someone still owns one, they get to “own” that they own it now.
So like what if you bought it used? That doesn’t profit the manufacturer, and there’s no way you’d be able to tell just looking at it.
I understand the frustration with Musk, but to sell the car someone else has to buy it and then that buyer is going to be bullied. I don’t think the frustration is being focused on the right thing here. Go protest or spend that time calling or writing to your representatives instead.
I agree the infighting is not helpful. I also think that we currently can’t use traditional bargaining and protest tools to effectively punish or otherwise shame those in power into concession. In this case, Musk is an oligarch who owns companies, like Tesla. People are shaming owners of these vehicles and pressuring them to sell because that is a very tangible way to hurt the oligarchs in our country, by hurting their purse. It’s the only thing they care about. It will either help lead towards concession, or ultimately wipe out the power they have. I think this is a form of solidarity, and those who care about that will go out of their way to distance themselves from the oligarchs who oppress us, including when trading or buying within our own class.
As much as you may not be into cars, for a significant amount of people they’re seen as a status symbol and part of someone’s identity. It may match a persons style or lifestyle choice.
If you are seen to be driving one others may believe you side with Elon musk and his radical political shift. You may also disagree with him so much you may not want to daily something that benefits him overall.
It may go deeper than that. If I owned a Tesla, driving it around would be, in my mind, free advertising for Tesla and, by extension, Elon.
I have zero interest in throwing him or his company even the most ephemeral of bones, so I would personally find a sticker to be weak protest.
ETA: if you bought a Tesla car before his rapid mental decline into alt-right fascism, that’s one thing. But cybertrucks and new Teslas are after, and owning one is saying at best, “Yeah, he’s a technofacist, but I don’t really care if my money props up his ketamine-fueled destruction of societies.”
This ignores the fact that selling the car does not remove it from the universe. It’d be better to have a liberal with anti Elon stickers driving it than a nazi, don’t you think?
No, I don’t. It’s free advertising for a fascist. Who is driving it doesn’t matter; people should look at every Tesla with derision and treat doing business with his company as taboo. People driving them should feel uncomfortable about their proximity to a fascist.
I would love to crush every Tesla and have the company go bankrupt, but try recommending that to someone in a list of actions. That’s why it’s not included.
The advice isn’t about reducing the number of Teslas. It’s about helping someone get out of owning one. Also, that money doesn’t go to Elon, it goes to the seller, so to some people, they might consider that part a wash.
You realize that if someone sells their Tesla, while they no longer own one, someone else does, right?
The point is crashing the market value of used Teslas, thereby reducing new sales as people will be more incentivized to buy used.
What’s wrong with owning one? Its a car and we can assume the owner has a need for it (obligatory “Fuck cars!”). It’s the buying of one with the knowledge we have now that is the issue.
Edit: I see a few downvotes so I must have said something wrong. What am I still not understanding?
It’s also an overpriced “luxury” vehicle, a terrible one with a boatload of recalls and recurring design issues. How long before we consider owning one to be like owning a Daewoo or Pinto?
We’ve also known what their CEO is about for a while now. Years in fact. And that same CEO is dismantling the US government and killing people with his actions. I think a lot of us see it this way: If someone still owns one, they get to “own” that they own it now.
So like what if you bought it used? That doesn’t profit the manufacturer, and there’s no way you’d be able to tell just looking at it.
I understand the frustration with Musk, but to sell the car someone else has to buy it and then that buyer is going to be bullied. I don’t think the frustration is being focused on the right thing here. Go protest or spend that time calling or writing to your representatives instead.
The working class infighting is not the way.
I agree the infighting is not helpful. I also think that we currently can’t use traditional bargaining and protest tools to effectively punish or otherwise shame those in power into concession. In this case, Musk is an oligarch who owns companies, like Tesla. People are shaming owners of these vehicles and pressuring them to sell because that is a very tangible way to hurt the oligarchs in our country, by hurting their purse. It’s the only thing they care about. It will either help lead towards concession, or ultimately wipe out the power they have. I think this is a form of solidarity, and those who care about that will go out of their way to distance themselves from the oligarchs who oppress us, including when trading or buying within our own class.
As much as you may not be into cars, for a significant amount of people they’re seen as a status symbol and part of someone’s identity. It may match a persons style or lifestyle choice.
If you are seen to be driving one others may believe you side with Elon musk and his radical political shift. You may also disagree with him so much you may not want to daily something that benefits him overall.
Right so an anti Elon sticker should suffice. So now the smart owner is out $1, not thousands.
It may go deeper than that. If I owned a Tesla, driving it around would be, in my mind, free advertising for Tesla and, by extension, Elon.
I have zero interest in throwing him or his company even the most ephemeral of bones, so I would personally find a sticker to be weak protest.
ETA: if you bought a Tesla car before his rapid mental decline into alt-right fascism, that’s one thing. But cybertrucks and new Teslas are after, and owning one is saying at best, “Yeah, he’s a technofacist, but I don’t really care if my money props up his ketamine-fueled destruction of societies.”
This ignores the fact that selling the car does not remove it from the universe. It’d be better to have a liberal with anti Elon stickers driving it than a nazi, don’t you think?
No, I don’t. It’s free advertising for a fascist. Who is driving it doesn’t matter; people should look at every Tesla with derision and treat doing business with his company as taboo. People driving them should feel uncomfortable about their proximity to a fascist.
I would love to crush every Tesla and have the company go bankrupt, but try recommending that to someone in a list of actions. That’s why it’s not included.
Hah. Actually you’ve still lost thousands because no one wants those shitboxes.
Because elon bad all cybertrucks must be defaced and their drivers hung - at least that’s the sentiment I’m seeing around here lately
You do realize what community you’re in, right?
So? I said what I said lmao
Alright. Clearly it bothers you that people don’t like fascists or fascist supporters. Why is that?
That’s an interesting leap in logic for sure
If you buy from a fascist, guess what you are implicitly supporting?
Do you think most people out living their lives are as terminally online as us?
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