So it wasn’t Reddit bots after all.
There is plenty of manufactured consent without it.
Same horrible views -Trump.
Europe can continue going down the drain with the US.
Deserved.
If you don’t enjoy the left environment Lemmy has to offer, there are plenty of right wing echo chambers wating for you. I prefer it over the pure hate I read on those, even if I agree to a certain degree about manufactured consent. Maybe jfs just the nature of the Internet these days.
You clearly don’t get my comment.
I said Lemmy is equally right except there are no Trump fanboys.
If that’s why you feel the need to call it ‘left’ is laughable.
Possibly from american standards and view, who haven’t got a clue what ‘left’ is and think their Bernie or even their right wing Dem party is ‘left’.
Despite there being less horrible bots and banning or whatever, it looks like most views correspond to american ones.
Since Europe in in their sphere of influence and colors our news.
Somehow I was hoping it was only the MSM but when I see all the comments and views here it looks like the population has also shifted further to the right and think what they are told to think.
Many incapable of discussion, parroting MSM narrative and when asked for sources they start name-calling bcs they can’t back it up.
Only difference with Reddit is I (mostly) don’t get banned if I then return the favor.
You clearly haven’t been around here much. There are loads of very far left communities and servers including dbzero, hexbear, lemmygrad, lemmy.ml, and so on. Sure there are right wing and libertarian parts as well on different servers. In fact this place largely attracts radicals and extremists of multiple flavors.
I regularly get canned for not being far left enough actually. Despite being further left than easily 95% of people.
I know of most them, even if I’m indeed new here but was talking about general subs not particularly political.
The views are mostly center at best.
I regularly get canned for not being far left enough actually. Despite being further left than easily 95% of people.
There’s the crux of the problem.
Who defines ‘left’?
I know for certain in US (who are mostly politically illiterate and use wrong terminology) the slightly less right wing Dem party for a great deal sees themselves as left or progressive.
Which they certainly aren’t .
You have the same phenomenon in EU where in many countries you have a socialist party, that is in no way socialist.
As an example the worst being the Labour party.
They follow the same center right route as most ‘acceptable’ parties. usually Liberal/Conservative that keep the status quo of more and more austerity, chipping away at social policy.
The “socialists” up tp a certain part get away with it by now and then throwing a bone to the public and shamelessly put on a show on the 1 may and scream the internationale.
Where they do what politicians do, lie and pretend to be the party for the people.
When things get worse, and there is nothing more to squeeze the commoners get angry and want to be heard.
Unfortunately mostly by voting extreme right.
Others to what is called ‘extreme left’ the actual real socialists (evil commies, tankies!) who the status quo parties demonise even more than extreme right.
After all they are the real enemy, while fascism is simply ultracapitalism and is less of a problem and when necessary even will be embraced by the traditional parties.
So it wasn’t Reddit bots after all.
There is plenty of manufactured consent without it.
Same horrible views -Trump.
Europe can continue going down the drain with the US.
Deserved.
If you don’t enjoy the left environment Lemmy has to offer, there are plenty of right wing echo chambers wating for you. I prefer it over the pure hate I read on those, even if I agree to a certain degree about manufactured consent. Maybe jfs just the nature of the Internet these days.
I see hate here too. And hate is nothing that I personally endorse. But I understand where it is coming from, and whom it is directed to. On the right it’s just directed towards the hate group of the day©, be it communists, migrants, refugees, gays or trans folk. It’s just hate to have a enemy. At least here it’s hate against a class that has systematically made 99 % of people suffer for their own gains.
You clearly don’t get my comment.
I said Lemmy is equally right except there are no Trump fanboys.
If that’s why you feel the need to call it ‘left’ is laughable.
Possibly from american standards and view, who haven’t got a clue what ‘left’ is and think their Bernie or even their right wing Dem party is ‘left’.
Despite there being less horrible bots and banning or whatever, it looks like most views correspond to american ones.
Since Europe in in their sphere of influence and colors our news.
Somehow I was hoping it was only the MSM but when I see all the comments and views here it looks like the population has also shifted further to the right and think what they are told to think.
Many incapable of discussion, parroting MSM narrative and when asked for sources they start name-calling bcs they can’t back it up.
Only difference with Reddit is I (mostly) don’t get banned if I then return the favor.
You clearly haven’t been around here much. There are loads of very far left communities and servers including dbzero, hexbear, lemmygrad, lemmy.ml, and so on. Sure there are right wing and libertarian parts as well on different servers. In fact this place largely attracts radicals and extremists of multiple flavors.
I regularly get canned for not being far left enough actually. Despite being further left than easily 95% of people.
I know of most them, even if I’m indeed new here but was talking about general subs not particularly political.
The views are mostly center at best.
I regularly get canned for not being far left enough actually. Despite being further left than easily 95% of people.
There’s the crux of the problem.
Who defines ‘left’?
I know for certain in US (who are mostly politically illiterate and use wrong terminology) the slightly less right wing Dem party for a great deal sees themselves as left or progressive.
Which they certainly aren’t .
You have the same phenomenon in EU where in many countries you have a socialist party, that is in no way socialist.
As an example the worst being the Labour party.
They follow the same center right route as most ‘acceptable’ parties. usually Liberal/Conservative that keep the status quo of more and more austerity, chipping away at social policy.
The “socialists” up tp a certain part get away with it by now and then throwing a bone to the public and shamelessly put on a show on the 1 may and scream the internationale.
Where they do what politicians do, lie and pretend to be the party for the people.
When things get worse, and there is nothing more to squeeze the commoners get angry and want to be heard.
Unfortunately mostly by voting extreme right. Others to what is called ‘extreme left’ the actual real socialists (evil commies, tankies!) who the status quo parties demonise even more than extreme right.
After all they are the real enemy, while fascism is simply ultracapitalism and is less of a problem and when necessary even will be embraced by the traditional parties.