People on twitter at each other’s throats for a recent trend in which you can use imageai filters to reproduce images in Studio Ghibli style.

Lots of people are throwing around the Miyazaki quote where he calls AI an “insult to life itself” - it’s worth noting that this came after he witnessed a simulation using AI animation to make a zombie body crawl across the ground. Miyazaki remarked that he has a very disabled friend he sees regularly, and that he can’t find this usage cool or interesting. He goes on to remark about generative AI later in the clip, but let’s be clear, that specific statement was disconnected.

I’m curious what the Lemmy opinion is here. Is this a short-lived fad or does it speak to larger ramifications in the creative industry? Is this a silly little image filter or a harbinger of global artistic doom?

  • Riskable@programming.dev
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    5 days ago

    Generative AI is theft in the same way that cars stole the livelihoods away from farriers.

    Actually, it’s not quite that bad because it just makes existing jobs more efficient. “Big AI” thinks that it will keep evolving at the same pace as Moore’s Law but there’s currently no evidence to suggest that’s true.

    It’ll get faster, for sure but that won’t make it better. I wouldn’t be surprised if everyone’s still complaining about AI hallucinating things 50 years from now. It’ll just be quicker and easier to re-do the output when it does.

    Here’s my realistic predictions, based on everything I’ve actually used and studied about AI (I follow it very closely):

    • Every photographer and everyone else who edits photos will be using AI like they currently use photo editing tools. It’ll become just another tool in the toolbox. I wouldn’t be surprised if GIMP and Krita add a whole menu just for AI actions. In fact, many professionals are already using AI every day.
    • 3D artists will also adopt AI to make their workflows faster (god knows they could use it! 3D modeling is tedious AF). AI will be used to rig up models and even to create starter models from 2D images (it’ll be a long time before the AI is making decent models though… That are suitable for rigging).
    • Animators will be able to work much more efficiently by training AIs with their characters and telling the AI to put those characters in whatever clothes or positions they want. Then they’ll use AI to animate the difference between those states. Character positions will become standardized prompts and new animators will have to learn the new “prompt lingo”.
    • Voice actors will use AI to take on more roles. Instead of being typecast into specific roles based on the sound of their voice(s) they’ll be able to change their voice however they want to fit the role.
    • Writers will use AI to improve their writing… A lot. There’s an unfathomable number of people that have great stories to tell but aren’t that great at writing. With LLMs they’ll be able to write out the draft of their story and use the AI to make the language flow better. It’ll also fix their idiotic spelling and grammar mistakes (that I find in ebooks all the fucking time and it pisses me off! Paste your stuff into ChatGPT and tell it, Please check the grammar! It costs nothing but a few minutes of your time! Seriously: It’s a free service. Use it!).

    What do all of these things have in common? They’re not taking people’s jobs.

    It’s just like any automation that humans have adopted since the industrial revolution. Sure, a company may require fewer workers to perform a task but at the same time that creates new jobs that didn’t exist before.

    It’s the natural evolution of work: As time goes on jobs become more specialized and old jobs go away. It’s been like that for a long time now.

    Is AI going to accelerate that trend? Yeah probably. But only in the short term. Long term, it will result in more jobs and more productivity.

    Aside: I’d like to point out that the rich getting richer is an orthogonal concept to productivity. That’s a function of government/economic systems. Not automation or scientific advancement.

    • Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works
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      5 days ago

      I really think the larger problem is with capitalism in general, and AI is just the latest rendition. If the largest complaint is job loss moreso loss of income) and stealing intellectual property… These are both unnecessary concepts