Elon Musk X media platform is common venue for masturbation to USA “left vs. right” egoism of tribal alpha-male intercourse
“Are you smarter than a 3rd grade school student?” … Masturbatory Egoism of social media simulacra. Reactionary comment messages on social systems that boil down to: “I am smarter than Donald Trump”, “I am smarter than Elon Musk”, “I am smarter than Russia”
I recently heard a smart guy say: there is no longer left an right in the political spectrum. The main divide nowadays is between constructive policies, that tries to solve conflicts vs destructive policies, that use hatred and division to get to their perceoved goals (i.e. power and cash)… I liked this differentiation.
Theres a famous account of a dinner between Steve Jobs and Rupert Murdoch, in which Jobs said essentially the same thing: we are not divided by Left/Right, Conservative/ Democrat, we are divided between Constructive and Destructive, and it was clear that Murdoch was on the side of Destructive.
I’ve been an Unafilliated Independent for my 45+ years of voting, but since reading that, I’ve described myself as a Constructive Independent.
main divide nowadays is between constructive policies, that tries to solve conflicts vs destructive policies, that use hatred and division to get to their perceoved goals
I agree. There is no longer “left vs. right”, it’s fiction vs non-fiction !FictionNonFiction@lemm.ee
This was documented over a decade ago in year 2014:
“In the twenty-first century the techniques of the political technologists have become centralized and systematized, coordinated out of the office of the presidential administration, where Surkov would sit behind a desk on which were phones bearing the names of all the “independent” party leaders, calling and directing them at any moment, day or night. The brilliance of this new type of authoritarianism is that instead of simply oppressing opposition, as had been the case with twentieth-century strains, it climbs inside all ideologies and movements, exploiting and rendering them absurd. One moment Surkov would fund civic forums and human rights NGOs, the next he would quietly support nationalist movements that accuse the NGOs of being tools of the West. With a flourish he sponsored lavish arts festivals for the most provocative modern artists in Moscow, then supported Orthodox Christian fundamentalists, dressed all in black and carrying Jesus crosses, who in turn attacked the modern art exhibitions. The Kremlin’s idea is to own all forms of political discourse, to not let any independent movements develop outside of its walls. Its Moscow can feel like an oligarchy in the morning and a democracy in the afternoon, a monarchy for dinner and a totalitarian state by bedtime.” ― Peter Pomerantsev, Nothing Is True and Everything Is Possible: The Surreal Heart of the New Russia, year 2014
Are you not doing the exact same thing with posts like this?
What is the purpose of further spreading their useless messaging?
Are you not doing the exact same thing with posts like this?
No, I’m not. I’m doing !CounterSurkov@lemm.ee courseware developing on public social media systems, they (the two form X media platform in the screenshot) are inside the Kremlin simulacra patterns and are unable to defend NATO against Russia. They are in severe need of education about “media ecology” and updated on the latest tactics of Putin’s military.
What is the purpose of further spreading their useless messaging?
Development of cult-deprogramming education and media ecology literacy so that the entire population of the United States of America over age 11 can “get on the same page”, “find common ground” in resisting the Surkov student meme warfare against NATO / USA. To try and address the long-standing conflicts in the monomyth fiction systems that have lead to world wars and terrorism. See also community: !FictionNonFiction@lemm.ee
“People are taking the piss out of you everyday. They butt into your life, take a cheap shot at you and then disappear. They leer at you from tall buildings and make you feel small. They make flippant comments from buses that imply you’re not sexy enough and that all the fun is happening somewhere else. They are on TV making your girlfriend feel inadequate. They have access to the most sophisticated technology the world has ever seen and they bully you with it. They are The Advertisers and they are laughing at you.” - Banksy
“Pussy” in this context means “scaredy cat”
“Pussy” in this context means “scaredy cat”
In the context of White House / Donald Trump “grab them by the Pussy” year 2025, it means alpha-male shit-talk against men to imply they are cowardly women and girlie girls.
It’s a technique of negging used on Elon Musk’s X and other social machine platforms. The USA society (even those too young to legally vote) has adopted Donald Trump as a Reality Social Media star that leads them, populations frequently discuss his mannerisms, repeat his speech style, Fox News speak language, gestures, and are compulsive in adopting his Twitter style / rally performance shows.
What Americans need more than amything, are Critical Thinking Slills. That’s what allows people to reject propagamda instantly. Often, research isn’t even necessary, because the basic premise is flawed enough to reject it, if you have the Critical Thinking Slills to analyze it.
What Americans need more than amything, are Critical Thinking Slills. That’s what allows people to reject propagamda instantly.
“Instantly”, “reactionary” “without thinking”.
That’s exactly the opposite.
We have known this since the 1950 / 1960’s: “A point of view means a static fixed position and you can’t have a static fixed position in the electric age. It’s impossible to have a point of view in the electric age and have any meaning at all. You’ve got to be everywhere at once whether you like it or not. You have to be participating in everything going on at the same time and that is not a point of view.” — Marshall McLuhan, University of Toronto professor
This isn’t an American only issue. The Middle East has been in crisis for THOUSANDS of years with the same problem that Americans have. The BIble.
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People are unable to tell fiction from non-fiction, we need to educate and address that problem. See here: !FictionNonFiction@lemm.ee
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People used to go to the public library and look up information in books and fact-check. That is how you distinguish fiction from non fiction.
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People in year 2025, all over the world, avoid Wikipedia and fact-checking. What they trust is Social Media machines of anonymous no-name people. They do not even know who the author of Lemmy comments are, they just accept anything they read because they like the decoration of the meme format. That is why things have gotten so terrible since year 2007 in USA. The Apple iPhone.
You can’t have every person watching different TV shows, going to 8,000 different Lemmy communities to get the meme news. People are NOT ON the same page. Instead of all of us building a Super Wikipedia that has every factional citation and reference of information that is common ground / common understanding Super WIkipedia, people get their learning and education from thousands of different Lemmy comments and they filter and subscribe to different Bluesky and YouTube feeds and live in their own ego-driven “this is attractive” information.
This crisis was spelled out in 1985 in a book by Neil Postman, see !BackTo1985@lemm.ee
Everybody “being on the same page” isn’t necessarily a good thing. MAGAs are on the same page - Fox News, and the Conservative Propaganda Machine. Christians are on the same page, so are Muslims.
Rather than everyone rowing in the same direction, it’s more important that people know how to find the truth, and differentiate between truth and lies, and it starts with Critical Thinking Skills, which requires people to first apply the “smell” test.
For instance, in 2016, MAGA made a claim that 3 million illegals were bussed in from Mexico to vote for Hillary Clinton on Election Day, and many people believed it, and repeated it as truth. It didn’t require research to prove it wrong, just some common sense Critical Thinking.
How many people does a bus hold? 50? So to bus in 3 million people would require 60,000 busses. Were border agents aware of 60,000 busses full of undocumented Mexican tourists crossing the border that day? The border crossings are on video. Do the videos show an enormous rise Mexican bus traffic that day? The answer is No.
What about the polling places? Did any report having busloads of Mexicans pulling up, and piling in to vote? The answer is No.
And who organized this giant operation? They would have had to register specific people to vote weeks in advance, tying their illegal registry to an actual address. Then they would have to find that same person on Election Day, and make sure they get on the exact right bus, to the exact right polling station on Election Day, and repeat that 3 million times, all on the same day, and not make any mistakes. Does any of that sound plausible, or even possible? The answer is No.
What about the human requirememts of 3 million people on that day? They would have to feed them, and let them use restrooms. Any reports of 60,000 busses flooding truck stops all over California that day? The answer is No.
It would have taken an army of people dedicated to pulling off this enormous election fraud in a reliably Blue state that didn’t even need the votes. It was an extrely controversial election, and not one person has ever stepped forward to say they participated in it.
Just a cursory look at the alleged “facts” is enough to reject the idea as preposterous, without any research at all. That’s the value of Critical Thinking Skills.
Everybody “being on the same page” isn’t necessarily a good thing. MAGAs are on the same page - Fox News, and the Conservative Propaganda Machine. Christians are on the same page, so are Muslims.
Nope, Muslims are on a different book, Quran, than Christians, Bible.
Have you ever lived outside your home nation? I’ve lived in North Africa, Algeria - Islamic nation. I’ve lived in Jordan in the Middle East. I’ve lived in USA, my home nation where I am now. I’ve lived in Indonesia and Malaysia - Islamic nations. They are not on “the same page”, a Mosque is not reading The Bible.
I suggest you work on your media literacy. I suggest Finnegans Wake by James Joyce as study basis; !JamesJoyce@lemm.ee
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“Finnegans Wake is the greatest guidebook to media study ever fashioned by man.” - Marshall McLuhan, Newsweek Magazine, p.56, February 28, 1966Yes, I understand all that. I didn’t mean that Christians and Muslims are on the same page with each other, but as individual groups they are on the same page, due to whatever propaganda they injest. Conservatives follow the Conservative Propaganda Machine, Christians follow the Bible, Muslims follow the Quran. Neo-Nazis/ White Supremacists have their websites and podcasts. Etc., etc.
Often those individual groups have similar objectives and will form alliances, such as the alliance between Christians, Conservatives, and White Supremacists.
My point stands that having everyone singing from the same sheet music isn’t the answer. That just takes mindless obedience, which is easily exploited by bad-faith entities. Encouraging people to render their own decisions based on Critical Thinking Skills, guided by a genuine sense of morality, is far more important to the health and security of a nation.
Yes, I understand all that.
But you clearly didn’t understand what I was saying about the urgent need to get people on the same page, a “Super Wikipedia” and stop consuming junk comments on Lemmy.
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Liberals are bringing angry placards to Town Hall events.
Conservatives are bringing civil rights protestors to El Salvadorian oubliettes.
Conservatives are bringing civil rights protestors to El Salvadorian oubliettes.
“Conservative” is Saudi Arabia, Iran, Russia, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Algeria, Egypt… a lot people seem confused how these nations operate. Why anyone in USA would want to be like the Taliban and Kremlin… it raises serious questions as to their understanding of the current world and what kind role models they admire. Even how Elon Musk uses robots and self-driving automobiles to dominate over people. How can people on an Apple iPhone using Elon Musk’s X media platform be “conserving” anything? I don’t even like to use these terms “conservative” and “liberal”, and I try to ask people what exact nation on Earth do you want our future to be like, what is an example of how you want the USA to be in year 2026?… you get the idea.
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“Technopoly is a state of culture. It is also a state of mind. It consists in the deification of technology, which means that the culture seeks its authorization in technology, finds its satisfactions in technology, and takes its orders from technology.” ― Neil Postman, Technopoly: The Surrender of Culture to Technology, 1992“Conservative” is Saudi Arabia, Iran, Russia, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Algeria, Egypt
It’s crazy how ignorant this claim is.
It’s crazy how ignorant this claim is.
Can you explain why, or can you only neg on social media Lemmy platform in 7 words how anyone who doesn’t understand you the same way is “crazy”.
You think Donald Trump is crazy? You think Malala in Pakistan was crazy? You just throw the world around in banal little Elon Musk Twitter-length style?
how ignorant this claim is.
On a Lemmy social machine community named “Masturbatory Egoism” your electronic message reply boils down to “I’m super smart, my ego really great, but anyone who criticizes conservatives is crazy ignorant”. Without one drop of education, reference, idea - just shit-talk like a shit-bird Tweet-message.
“I couldn’t understand what the Taliban were trying to do. “They are abusing our religion,” I said in interviews. “How will you accept Islam if I put a gun to your head and say Islam is the true religion? If they want every person in the world to be Muslim, why don’t they show themselves to be good Muslims first?” ― Malala Yousafzai, I Am Malala: The Girl Who Stood Up for Education and Was Shot by the Taliban. October 8, 2023
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“In America (year 1985), everyone is entitled to an opinion, and it is certainly useful to have a few when a pollster shows up. But these are opinions of a quite different roder from eighteenth- or nineteenth-century opinions. It is probably more accurate to call them emotions rather than opinions, which would account for the fact that they change from week to week, as the pollsters tell us. What is happening here is that television is altering the meaning of ‘being informed’ by creating a species of information that might properly be called disinformation. I am using this world almost in the precise sense in which it is used by spies in the CIA or KGB. Disinformation does not mean false information. It means misleading information–misplace, irrelevant, fragmented or superficial information–information that creates the illusion of knowing something but which in fact leads one away from knowing. In saying this, I do not mean to imply that television news deliberately aims to deprive Americans of a coherent, contextual understanding of their world. I mean to say that when news is packaged as entertainment, that is the inevitable result. And in saying that the television news show entertains but does not inform, I am saying something far more serious than that we are being deprived of authentic information. I am saying we are losing our sense of what it means to be well informed. Ignorance is always correctable. But what shall we do if we take ignorance to be knowledge?” ― Neil Postman, Amusing Ourselves to Death: Public Discourse in the Age of Show Business, 1985 !BackTo1985@lemm.ee
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