• bizarroland@fedia.io
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    The number of people that want to quote native Americans and talk about how native Americans were screwed over by the white man and how terrible it is all the things that have been done to them divided by the people in that group who are willing to give up their property and their lives and move back to their ancestral homes is the same as any number divided by 0.

    And I’m saying this as a Lakota man.

    You don’t want to actually do anything about the problem with native americans.

    You just want to feel Superior to other people.

    But don’t get off of your high horse because I’m sure the fall will kill you.

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      A number divided by zero equals infinity.

      Except if it’s zero then (so 0/0) it is either undefined or any number IIRC.

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        If you plot out any number divided by x, as x approaches 0 the answer goes towards Infinity, yes.

        When it reaches zero it ceases to be a number.

        Every number divided by 0 is “undefined”, and it is not undefined because we can’t describe it, it is undefined because it does not exist, because you cannot divide things by 0.

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        No. The standard field (that is, a ring where both operations are abelian groups) on the complex numbers doesn’t have a multiplicative inverse of 0; rings can’t have a multiplicative inverse for the additive identity. You can create an algebra with a ring as a sub-algebra with such, but it will no longer be a ring. My preferred method is to impose such an algebra on the one-point compactification of the Complex Numbers, where the single added point is denoted as “Ω”.

        I started this project when I was 12, and when I could show that the results were self-consistent this was what I had settled on:

        let z be a complex number that is not otherwise specified by the following equations. Note: the complex numbers contain the Real numbers, and so the following equations apply to the them as well.

        0Ω=Ω0=1

        z+Ω=Ω+z=zΩ=Ωz=Ω=ΩΩ

        Ω-Ω=0. Ω-Ω=Ω+(-Ω)=Ω+(-1Ω)=Ω+Ω=0

        The algebra described above is not associative. That is to say, (AB)C does not always equal A(BC).

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        This is a logical fallacy called “ad hominem”, you’re attempting to tear me down as a human being rather than address the salient parts of my argument, and that’s because you don’t actually have a good answer to my argument so you’re just being a dick head.

        In this case, me being a native American indicates at least some small portion of the native American viewpoint on a topic that was brought up about native Americans.

        Had it not been relevant I would not have mentioned it.

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        You can start by getting a passport and looking into emigrating away from the United States.

        Edit: well, I guess people don’t like it when I’m flippant, and do like it when db0 condescends to a minority. Good show.

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            Then what the fuck are you doing talking about American colonialism when it doesn’t fucking affect you?

            You are very fucking brave taking a stance that other people should do something you yourself are incapable of doing.

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                I don’t know if you’re being obtuse or if you’re just not getting it.

                My statement was that the people who use native American sayings to make themselves feel Superior to other people are fundamentally incapable of putting their money where their mouth is.

                You’re saying “I’m all for other people putting their money where my mouth is” as if that somehow accomplishes anything or refutes my point.

                You don’t seem to understand how stupid/pointless/arrogant/self-serving that is.

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                  I didn’t try to make myself superior. I just quoted a Native American. All the rest is your interpretation.

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      First off it is incredible people are using the downvote button as an “I disagree” button even here. Vile fucking people.

      Most efficient way to solve the issue of reparations to descendants of slaves and indians is poverty alleviation programs and land reform, they are disproportionately affected by these things. No more rich men owning forests, even if they do it through “conservation” nonprofits. No more wealth hoarding by white americans who inherited expensive housing from the era of redlining.

      Also minority groups need special political representation in a democracy otherwise it is just wolves voting to have the sheep for dinner.

      This is what they fight tooth and nail because they know who would win from evening the scales.

      White political power is based on hoarding property, money, gerrymandering and preventing campaign finance reform.