I’ll just post my initial comment in the entirety since what happens is entirely predicted by my first comment.
The topic was trans athletes and, like with any hot button political issues, there are rigidly defined ‘sides’ that come with a list of things that you must profess.
These things are simply declared as not being open to discussion and if you challenge that declaration, ye power trippin’ bastards rear their ugly head. This dogma is unhealthy in any community and the people who enforce it through social pressure, cyber bullying and mod powers are actively harmful.
As to demonstrate my point I continued with the conversation, responding in good faith to the people who attempted a conversation, right up until I was mass banned (which only took a few hours).
The first comment is here if you want to see the entire conversation or think I’m hiding some secret transphobic rants in my comment history: https://lemmy.world/comment/15496985
The Initial Comment
This is an issue that exposes some of the more dogmatic people in the movement.
It is as if there is a list of positions that you’re required to believe and if you disagree with any one of them you’re labeled a heretic (transphobic, in this case).
Sports and the fairness of competition is a complex issue even when you’re just talking about cisgender competitors:
Can a person use performance enhancing drugs to train and then get clean enough to test positive for a competition? It seems unfair, to me, for the other competitors if this is the case.
It isn’t an unfair statement to say that the physical performance of cisgender men is higher than that of cisgender women. This is why we have separate competitions for men and women.
The issue isn’t as simple as a choice between “Transgender people should be free, without question, to compete in any competition” or “Transgender people should not be allowed to compete as their gender”
Framing it in such a black and white manner is harmful behavior, no matter which position you take.
We need to understand how people’s bodies are affected and what advantages of disadvantages are obtained and then base the rule changes on objective data and not appeals to emotion or ideological bullying.
Fabricated Pretexts
The last thing I said on the topic (bold added), as there were already commenters insinuating that I’m secretly a transphobe rather than engaging in discussion, was:
Obviously the people arguing that trans people should never compete are ignorant, I’m not supporting that position. From the point of view of fairness in competition there has to be an objective answer that’s backed by objective tests.
Simply declaring that trans people are beyond reproach and that any attempts to quantify biological advantage are unfairly discriminatory and anyone asking these questions is a bigot isn’t helpful.
I include this because included in the reasons for the bans is: “Transphobia attempting to make excuses for trans exclusion from sports.” This is completely misrepresenting what I said and what I believe in order to create a pretext for a ban.
And the power trippin’ bastards come in with the sweeping community bans (linuxphones@lemmy.ca, really?): https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=2&actionType=ModBanFromCommunity&userId=12926811
Conclusion
This kind of thinking is harmful to any community.
Labeling disagreement as bigotry is nonsense. Refusing to engage on a topic and using filters and bans to hide from people who don’t perfectly align with your ideas is not how you make allies or educate people.
The people that do this are responsible for creating the impression that your communities are hostile and made up of extremists. Attacking allies because they don’t fall in line without question is a blunder.
People with moderator powers should be held to a higher standard of responsibility and fabricating reasons for bans and mislabeling people as bigots is the ultimate abdication of that responsibility. These people are not interested in helping a community thrive, they simply want to be the ones with the power to strike out at people that they want to hurt regardless of the damage that it causes.
Thanks for coming to my TED talk (except you, Linuxphones@lemmy.ca, I pray you never learn how to exit vim)
At the time you made your post, there was no blahaj ban… If there was, I wouldn’t be able to see this post of yours as it wouldn’t have federated to blahaj.zone.
I have however banned you now, because you ignored people explaining to topic to you in good faith to continue repeating transphobic talking points.
At the time I made my post, from the link posted in my post:
What transphobic talking points? What people did I ignore? This is more of the same “I’m just going to make up things, knowing that I never have to defend them or justify them to anybody in any way (because I’m a powerful moderator and nobody can question me), and go on my way” power tripping crap.
Just because you’re a moderator for a minority group community that is the target of attacks doesn’t mean that everyone is out to get you.
It’s infuriating that you’re more willing to alienate allies by painting them as bigots than you are to educate people or answer their questions.
Just because YOU have seen the questions 1,000 times doesn’t mean that there are not people that are just thinking to ask those questions today. Just because some people will ask questions in bad faith doesn’t mean that everyone is asking questions in bad faith.
Simply labeling anything you don’t feel like dealing with as ‘transphobic’ and hiding in a filter bubble doesn’t solve anything. Enforcing arbitrary purity tests on people outside of your community is toxic behavior and does nothing but create animosity.
I have never been against trans rights, human rights, and I do not remotely support a ban on trans athletes.
My point was that people who use social punishment and intellectual bullying to silence any kind of dissent are a problem and damaging to communities. The people with moderation power who use their power to punish wrongthink and dissent while labeling it bigotry are especially toxic and damaging.
How many allies have you banned or alienated with this behavior? Does your hubris tell you that that number is zero?
Do better.
You fucking do better. Allies don’t go into minority communities and tell those communities how they should be run.
You didn’t read the OP.
I didn’t go into a minority community, if you read the link in the OP, I’m posting in a California community (which I did not get banned from, important to note) so I’m not exactly sure of your point.
This was literally mods from other communities on other servers deciding to issue bans for fabricated reasons.
This you?
Yeah, that’s telling a mod how to run an instance for your preferences and not for the community it’s for. That’s why I think you deserve the new ban regardless of your OP.
If you want to be taught, you’re being spoon fed a lesson. Open up the hangar! 🥄😮
I’m not telling them how to run their instance. I wasn’t on their instance or their community. I’ve never posted in any of the communities they moderate nor am I likely to.
I’m saying that they’re not doing this to moderate their communities (which I’ve never posted to, or even seen).
I’m saying that they’re abusing their moderator powers like a ‘Super Downvote’ button by spamming my mod log with nonsense, slanderous bans. So the next time a moderator is reviewing a report on a comment, they’ll see a bunch of bans for ‘transphobe’ and think that they mean something.
If you can’t see why that is a problem, imagine this scenario.:
I’m not going to do this, because it is toxic, but imagine this happening, because this is at the core of what I’m accusing these moderators of doing:
I can go and create a bunch of random communities, it’s easy. Click a button, type a name, click done. I can make 10-15 in a few minutes.
Now, I’m the moderator of these communities and I have decided that I don’t like how you’re talking to me. So I go and ban your from my community with the reason “Sending nude photographs to minors” and then I go to the next community, that I created 5 minutes ago, and ban you for “sexualizing children”. I keep doing this with the various communities that I’ve created until your mod log is full (it takes about 10) of bans from various communities with reasons that imply that you are a pedophile.
Would I be wrong for abusing moderator powers? Absolutely.
If someone called me out on abusing moderator powers, would it be ignorant to attack them for “telling moderators how to run their communities”? 🥄😮 Also, yes.
You literally are. I quoted the part where you do. Good on ada for the bans.
I’m reading the rest of it like:
“I was a dick to people and now their friends treat me like I’m a dick.”
That’s not unfair, that’s called having a reputation.
Anyway, I’m going to follow suit with the cool kids and block you since you refuse to take feedback. Keep telling yourself it’s anybody but you.
I’m losing such a tolerant friend too, I’ll be poorer for the rest of my days