I never once claimed to be an expert. I claimed to have facts and statistics, do you believe that facts only count if they come from the country you live in?
If person A from country X says one thing, and persons B and C from country X say the opposite, does that automatically prove A correct? It doesn’t automatically prove B and C correct either, but you took issue with me pointing out that B and C disagree with A.
I have spoken with several people from post-soviet states who lived during Socialism as well, and speak of it fondly. When all they have is anecdotes and all I have are statistics and data I can find, I end up agreeing more with the people whose opinions align with the material reality of the facts at hand.
If I were from another country, I wouldn’t care much for.the opinion of a US Trump supporter who thinks Biden is a Communist.
There were a lot of people who spoke fondly about the time of the National Socialism. Even my Grandmother. A kind and wise but not well educated woman.
“It wasnt all wrong” is a typical saying in this matter.
Its because if you lived your normal life, played along, looked away and were lucky - you could have had a decent life. And looking back at you past, even at the bad times, makes you forgiving and nostalgic. And forgetting, about all the bad stuff. The pressure to behave “right”, the fear of getting deported or killed, the shortage of basic resources, the horror about friends or family members who werent lucky.
But a wrong word in the school, a little mistake, a wrong friend or kind heart preventing you from looking away - and your life goes to shit. Depending on the shittines of the system of your country, this could mean, Detainment, torture, sexual abuse and murder - for you, your familiy and your friends.
And a lot of states in the SU were really fucked up. Some were kind of decent without a lot of cruelties. The people in the GDR (Eastern Germany) for example were lucky, because the GDR was the advertisement state for the SU. So werent killed so easy, “just” torture and detainment. Other states werent so lucky …
Equating fascism to Communism originates from Nazi apologia called Double Genocide Theory. The Nazis invented industrialized mass murder, whereas the Communists made dramatic strides for the Working Class, including a mass democratization of the economy, lower wealth disparity, a robust and free healthcare and education system, and more.
Essentially, you’re trying to replace actual historical analysis and statistics with emotional scaremongering based on an anecdote from your Nazi-sympathizing grandmother.
Moreover, the DDR actually had it worse, it was made to pay reparations for World War II while lacking a real industrial base, which was mostly in Western Germany. The Soviet Union was devastated by the Nazi’s genocidal assault on the Slavic people’s they deemed inferior, and therefore couldn’t afford to rapidly rebuild the DDR or financially support them as much as they would have wanted.
I recommend you take some time to read historical accounts and genuine criticisms of the Socialist system, without just vaguely gesturing at it.
So you speak for other countries as an “expert” from the other side of the world? Thats really relevant.
Further more your age has relevance by experiencing other times, with other media and a other zeitgeist.
I never once claimed to be an expert. I claimed to have facts and statistics, do you believe that facts only count if they come from the country you live in?
If person A from country X says one thing, and persons B and C from country X say the opposite, does that automatically prove A correct? It doesn’t automatically prove B and C correct either, but you took issue with me pointing out that B and C disagree with A.
You lecture people on the other side of the world about theire life by quoting a statistic from a relativly unfree and authocratic state …
I have spoken with several people from post-soviet states who lived during Socialism as well, and speak of it fondly. When all they have is anecdotes and all I have are statistics and data I can find, I end up agreeing more with the people whose opinions align with the material reality of the facts at hand.
If I were from another country, I wouldn’t care much for.the opinion of a US Trump supporter who thinks Biden is a Communist.
There were a lot of people who spoke fondly about the time of the National Socialism. Even my Grandmother. A kind and wise but not well educated woman. “It wasnt all wrong” is a typical saying in this matter.
Its because if you lived your normal life, played along, looked away and were lucky - you could have had a decent life. And looking back at you past, even at the bad times, makes you forgiving and nostalgic. And forgetting, about all the bad stuff. The pressure to behave “right”, the fear of getting deported or killed, the shortage of basic resources, the horror about friends or family members who werent lucky.
But a wrong word in the school, a little mistake, a wrong friend or kind heart preventing you from looking away - and your life goes to shit. Depending on the shittines of the system of your country, this could mean, Detainment, torture, sexual abuse and murder - for you, your familiy and your friends.
And a lot of states in the SU were really fucked up. Some were kind of decent without a lot of cruelties. The people in the GDR (Eastern Germany) for example were lucky, because the GDR was the advertisement state for the SU. So werent killed so easy, “just” torture and detainment. Other states werent so lucky …
Equating fascism to Communism originates from Nazi apologia called Double Genocide Theory. The Nazis invented industrialized mass murder, whereas the Communists made dramatic strides for the Working Class, including a mass democratization of the economy, lower wealth disparity, a robust and free healthcare and education system, and more.
Essentially, you’re trying to replace actual historical analysis and statistics with emotional scaremongering based on an anecdote from your Nazi-sympathizing grandmother.
Moreover, the DDR actually had it worse, it was made to pay reparations for World War II while lacking a real industrial base, which was mostly in Western Germany. The Soviet Union was devastated by the Nazi’s genocidal assault on the Slavic people’s they deemed inferior, and therefore couldn’t afford to rapidly rebuild the DDR or financially support them as much as they would have wanted.
I recommend you take some time to read historical accounts and genuine criticisms of the Socialist system, without just vaguely gesturing at it.