• Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee
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    7 days ago

    There’s a good reason Trump has won an election twice, and it’s because the people he’s running against are incapable of the type of introspection you just described. Their supporters, even less so.

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      7 days ago

      That may be part of the reason but it’s minor compared to the real deal. It’s funny you and the FPSbetter person are lecturing and blaming leftists when conservatives have been hate fueled and driven by the likes of Rush Limbaugh and Tucker Carlson for a long time.

      Why aren’t you lecturing them? Why aren’t you asking them to “play nice?” Why are you, essentially, fucking victim blaming? All while on a high horse of “just listen to them! Stop posting memes that make fun of them! This is why they don’t vote for us” It’s fucking not homie. They hate “illegals.” They were chasing and fucking up black people until very fucking recently. A few years ago, they marched and said “Jews will not replace us.” Until Reddit banned them, they had extremely fucking racist subreddits.

      Go out and try talking to them. Have you? Really, have you? Have you talked to a real fucking MAGA supporter? Not just a gen z white kid but a real fucking MAGA loving conservative?

      Because I have. With plenty. And it’s fucking exhausting. Have you heard the Sartre quote about antisemites? That’s what we’re dealing with: bad faith trolls fueled by hate who have no interest in true discourse.

      Are they all like this? Of course not. rAiN iS not PuRe WaTeR. Jfc. But is this the larger guiding force we’re dealing with? Fucking yes it is.

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              7 days ago

              If you’re trying to read, I’ll give you a hint: start from the top. Otherwise, you can just not engage further and move on. It’s pretty simple. No need to get worked up by a long reply you didn’t even read.

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              Maybe start by reading it. It’s not a “wall of text”. It’s a few short paragraphs. You just want any excuses to dismiss a different point of view. I think you’re a sea-lion troll, possibly one who’s paid in rubles ! Regardless, you’re absolutely a jerk !

              Sealioning (also sea-lioning and sea lioning) is a type of trolling or harassment that consists of pursuing people with relentless requests for evidence, often tangential or previously addressed, while maintaining a pretense of civility and sincerity (“I’m just trying to have a debate”), and feigning ignorance of the subject matter.[5][6][7][8] It may take the form of “incessant, bad-faith invitations to engage in debate”,[9] and has been likened to a denial-of-service attack targeted at human beings

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        7 days ago

        lecturing and blaming leftists

        It’s not leftists that they’re trying to lecture.

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      6 days ago

      Nah. I think they cheated. Made it harder for people to postal vote. Intimidated people at polling places. Gerrymandered. Musk bought votes. Probably Musk cheated in other ways, since according to Drumpf he’s “really good at computers”…

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        6 days ago

        Oh, I have no doubt there were some dirty tricks. But from what I saw, he also had a lot of legitimate support.