None of that will help materially or capture the attention of the tiktok generation. Protests, shouting and cursing in the chamber could work though.

At least we’ve moved away from “I’m a proudly stupid voter” to “unfortunately, we have to cater to the stupid ones”. That’s progress. I can work with that.

I’m not going to argue about any of that because even in the worst case where all of that is true it’s still ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE BETTER THAN TRUMP.

All you’ve done is shown that messaging matters.

So, first off: calling out someone for repeatedly doing the same thing that isn’t solving the problem doesn’t require having a better answer.

Fuck that shit. Tankie bastards are always criticizing Democrats but offering no alternatives. We should be demanding solutions purely as a shibboleth to weed out propagandists and their useful idiots.

Refuse to follow the rules of order Stop pretending that being civilized is getting them anywhere

Can you elaborate? This is pretty vague.

You “hey what should we do?”

Me “here are some options”

You “I don’t like em”

Me “those are really the only options”

You “no bring me more, also you are stupid”

Yeah I’m just gonna report you for trolling at this point.

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You’d rather have Trump than not-Trump?

We’re at the point where people would rather see Trump dismantle the entire federal government

Terminal stupidity.

Republicans come in and break the government, blame Democrats, and you stupid motherfuckers fall for it.

The system itself is only able to give you two options. It’s not an evil conspiracy, it’s a Prisoner’s Dilemma. If Democratic states, and Democratic states alone, eliminated first-past-the-post…we would be under permanent Republican rule. It’s political suicide.

Nonsensical. Circular reasoning. Why did Harris fail? Because she didn’t meet the low bar. How didn’t she meet the low bar? Because she failed.

Again, blame liberals for the atrocities of Republicans. Why is the bar in hell? Because Republicans have dragged us down there.

Try the Civil War

They’ll just be told that Democrats, immigrants, and trans people are causing the hardship.

There is a tipping point when MAGA followers are forced into situations where they must rely on their neighbour and mutual aid.

By the time we reach that point, there won’t be an aisle. There won’t be a government.

Nice dodge.

What SHOULD the Democrats do?

It’s your job to think for you. And it looks like you’re on strike.

What other choices could there be? Join the fascists?

Not really “cool with it” but I’d prefer him to Trump.

Yep. Our voting population is as dumb as always and more susceptible to propaganda than ever.