LaughingLion [any, any]

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  • I’d be careful of that. There is plenty of evidence that abuse in lesbian relationships is as high as in straight relationships. I think when we assume that abuse in relationships is primarily a male problem we are whitewashing abuse by women and abuse in relationships where there are no men. Whenever I point this out it seems to upset a lot of people but that is not my intention. Interpersonal conflict and abuse in general is genderless so we should expect there to be abuse in relationships of the LGBTQ+ variety. The factors that contribute to abusive partners are much more complicated than just a “power dynamic”. Further, power dynamics can exist in many ways that aren’t exclusive to traditional masculinity.














  • That’s hilarious and also good on you. Neurodivergence wins again. I think people new in rhetoric can’t help but answer a carefully laid out question because that is how conversation works. But in debate if you someone says, “well if you think this then would you…” you know they are leading you somewhere. You can reject the premise.

    JP knows this and employs it but he decides to employ it so often in a few sections on absolute gimme questions, like “would you lie to Nazis”. Some will say it’s because he’s crypto and maybe so but I think he sees the trap being laid and wants to avoid it. He can always avoid it later the line or claim a false-equivalency. But the real irony is that he didn’t need to be in that situation in the first place if he didn’t try to post-structurally prance his way out of the belief question. Oh, you wouldn’t put yourself in the quagmire of lying to a Nazi, bitch, you couldn’t even avoid the quagmire of dodging this set of questions.




  • A few things I noticed about Peterson “debates”.

    • When he’s dodging a question he gets real intense and stern sounding and stares directly into the eyes of the person who is pushing him to answer something he doesn’t want to. It’s a clear intimidation tactic and its funny when it does not work.
    • Doing the pedantic nonsense about defining “believe” and “is” and shit is post-structuralism. It’s an extension of the post-modernist movement. JP is a post-modernist when he doesn’t want to answer a question.
    • JP would never “put myself in that situation” where he is being asked about hiding Jews because he wouldn’t hide Jews. So obviously he’s not antifascist.

    Most importantly people don’t know how to “debate” these kinds of people. You don’t go in for something serious. You go in to make them look like a clown because they aren’t serious. If one line isn’t doing the trick you change tactics. Unfortunately this involves studying the tapes on these people. Watching a ton of them and learning the rhetorical devices they use and how to defeat those devices. How to craft rhetoric carefully to paint them into a corner and not give up when they refuse your rhetorical device.

    And never forget, you can always reject a rhetorical device. JP does it frequently when he can see it’s going to back him into a corner. You can return that. When your opponent makes a declarative statement you can just say, “no, that isn’t true.”