

Romania is not the priority, just like the US is not the priority for Trump and France is not the priority for Le Pen.
Romania is not the priority, just like the US is not the priority for Trump and France is not the priority for Le Pen.
Hey Russia, how’s that “it’s unacceptable to be surrounded by enemies” strategy working out for you
Sure seems like everyone’s super relaxed and letting their guard down, being okay with your chosen candidates as they usually have been, and et cetera
But then where will I deploy my AI moderator?
Well… that was not the variety of crazy that I had expected to be at the root of it.
Yeah. I’ve started to get suspicious of people who go out of their way to tell you that they are bold leftist media, and they’re bringing a needed perspective that is super-vital and not just all propaganda and lies like everything else is. It sort of reminds me of those bank billboards that say, “To us, you’re more than just a number.”
Update: It looks to me at least pretty likely that !altmedia@altmedia.house is also Russian propaganda. Maybe they just wanted to post this thing, and are short of any of the critical thinking skills that would let them evaluate my argument that MPN is Russian when I told them it was. Mostly they seem to be posting pro-Palestinian stuff from reliable sources. But, the sidebar is super sus to me.
Until January 2nd, 2025 the 'WorldNews` subreddit, with 40 million users automatically subscribed, had an ‘Israel at War’ livethread constantly at the top.
This community was founded to dissent from this forced perspective, and present the Palestinian and anti-establishment position in general.
Fine. I actually completely agree with this, I took a quick look at some of the pinned /r/worldnews threads about Israel’s wars and “wars” and they’re completely full of pro-Israel bullshit. My initial assumption is that the inherent corruptibility of the Reddit / Lemmy moderation model has rendered /r/worldnews subject to propaganda from Israel, but who knows. But yes it’s some bullshit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/1h3nk2e/rworldnews_live_thread_israel_at_war_thread_79/
It’s a little bit weird that they are pretending that anything on Lemmy needs to have this pro-Palestinian iconoclasty brought to bear, when everyone on Lemmy is pro-Palestinian anyway, but sure, whatever. Anyway, reading further:
This community is ‘AltMedia’ in the Mearsheimer and Walt sense. Not the Richard Spencer sense.
Not sure why those are the only two options…
And then below that is where it goes off the rails.
This community likes
John Mearsheimer
Good stuff if a little bit of an odd choice for the number 1.
Edward Said, Noam Chomsky
Great stuff
Chris Hedges
Well that’s an odd choice. All I really know about the guy is some email list that gets sent to me that has his name on it which occasionally says some very bizarre stuff. For example “The internet, from its inception, was created to be a tool of mass surveillance. It was developed first as a counterinsurgency tool for the Vietnam War and the rest of the Global South, but like many devices of foreign policy naturally it made its way back to U.S. soil.” He apparently used to be an extremely bold anti-Iraq War voice back in those days, which is obviously fantastic, but since then…
Hedges began hosting the television show On Contact for the Russian-government owned network RT America in June 2016. Hedges, who has claimed not to have known much about the network at the time, was approached to make a show by RT America president Mikhail “Misha” Solodovnikov, who promised him complete editorial independence.[44][57]
On Contact provided commentary on social issues, often profiling nonfiction authors and their recently published works, with Hedges aiming to follow the approach of former public television shows. On Contact was nominated for an Emmy in 2017, RT America’s first significant award nomination, but the award was won by Steve.[44]
On March 3, 2022, RT America ceased operations following the widespread deplatforming of Russian-sponsored media caused by the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine.[44] The run of On Contact ended.
Hedges supported Green Party candidate Jill Stein in the 2016 election.[44]
On May 27, 2020, Hedges announced that he would run as a Green Party candidate in New Jersey’s 12th congressional district for the 2020 elections. After being informed the following day that running for office would conflict with FCC fairness doctrine rules because he was at that time hosting the nationally broadcast RT America television show On Contact, Hedges decided not to pursue office in order to keep hosting the show.[63][64]
Anyway. Back to the list:
Scott Ritter, Glenn Greenwald, Tucker Carlson
I don’t recognize all that many of the names on their list. But, the people that they “like” that I do recognize that are in any way active in the modern day, there is a very distinct through-line (pretty much universal) about how those people feel about the invasion of Ukraine.
Anyway, YSK.
What the fuck
TIL. I’m so confused by this concept.
What level in school did these guys reach that this idea needs a special word for it? Like yes, of course you are allowed to support one action or portion of something but still be critical of the bad stuff, or of that thing as a whole. That’s… that’s how it works. If you’re not some kind of “YAAAAAY MY COUNTRY hooray forever” idiot, then that should be how you look at everything. You decide whether something that’s happening is good or bad, and then you express your support or not accordingly. This whole thing where it is relevant in any respect “which side” is doing the good or bad thing, in order for it to be good or bad or whether and how we need to talk about it, is some State Department bullshit that has no place in a normal person’s brain.
Do they imagine that there are a lot of people who go around uncritically supporting Ukraine / Democrats / NATO / whatever, just because they decided to like them? And that they need to distinguish that their support for their causes is the other kind? I kind of agree with the person who said that in practice it seems to boil down to “Fuck Putin, but Ukraine should just roll over and stop fighting” more often than not. I don’t really know, but that is the only way that to read this that makes sense to me, the on-the-surface reading seems just bizarre and pointless.
Good lord. It’s very bad. I like how the presenter clearly knows that it sucks, too, but he’s required to go out and pretend it doesn’t and try to hype it up.
I love / am disturbed a little bit, by how irritated the cats look about their clothing and not being sure what’s going on.
There are already .ml people in here, whataboutisming hard.
I’ve seen the “white knighting” thing in videos, but in my small amount of personal experience people are actually pretty good at sorting out and agreeing on who is the primary aggressor regardless of gender. Maybe the “man is always wrong” reaction is an anecdotal thing that gets blown up to a more common occurrence than it actually is, or maybe it’s a factor of crowd size and people jumping in from far away with no idea of the context.
What really sucks is getting attacked by a woman as a man. There is absolutely no good answer, it’s just a bad place to be stuck in.
Not all of them! Only the ones that want to regulate.*
* Also most of the other ones also
Not with all these men around keeping them in check
let’s not pretend women never commit violent offences
Bro that’s a whole new sentence wtf are you talking about
The point was that in the modern day, pretty much 100% of the violence scenarios where women “need” a man in the equation to protect them, the source of the problem is another man.
I actually don’t agree with when the pendulum swings all the way to total misandry like “men are all the problem sources and even outside of physical-violence scenarios they aren’t really needed.” You need a balance. There is a hilarious article by someone who tried working in an all-female office and she found the experience intensely unpleasant and not at all like the post-gender feminist utopia that was advertised. But as far as I can tell, no one here was saying that that was the goal, or that women were never criminal or violent. Just that selling men as a vital solution to the problem of interpersonal physical violence is missing a crucial leap of logic.
The quality of engineering and foresight that went into the 1970s NASA space program was unreal. It sounds made up, like a story told by a child to exaggerate the capabilities of the heroes to absurd levels. Read “Failure Is Not an Option” by Gene Krantz and “Carrying the Fire” by Michael Collins if you want sort of an overview. It was just an unreal time, and knowing some of the ingredients and motivations that made it happen are just endlessly fascinating to me.
Lightning struck one of the rockets on the way up and scrambled its electrical system. Basically like going 70 mph on the highway and then your steering wheel and brakes stop working, along with everything on your dashboard that might help you fix them. They got things back working again in seconds and continued like it hadn’t happened. That is the “SCE to AUX” legend that cemented John Aaron to God-status in spaceflight history.
About 60 seconds away from the very first time landing on the moon, one of the components malfunctioned in some way that fouled up the computer so that it couldn’t manage to continue flying and also do all its other tasks (accounts differ as to whether it was a hardware issue with a separate system, or a switch that Aldrin had left in the wrong position). The computer recognized that it had a problem, prioritized flying the spacecraft while notifying the astronauts that it had something it couldn’t deal with, and again within a time frame measured in fractions of a minute they had come up with a workaround and put it into action and saved the landing. The workaround? Turn off the display that told the astronauts where they were, and let the people on the ground read them updates over the radio (which was having interference problems) and have the man flying just visualize it for himself to fly the spaceship.
Everyone knows the Apollo 13 story, I saw the movie, but until reading from the people involved I hadn’t even really grasped how crazy it was. Think of an airplane that has a bomb go off midflight, blowing a hole in the side of the hull, and it continues the flight and lands safely at its destination even though some of its vital (vital!) machinery is missing. And the flight is a several-day flight with the crew having to balance sleeping and basic life functions against keeping the stricken airplane working until it gets where it’s going. They weren’t just solving a hard problem, it was just straight-up impossible.
Gordon Cooper’s power failed and he computed his landing trajectory with a wristwatch and marks that he scratched on the window of his spacecraft to fix his position against the stars, while he was hypoxic and his cabin was at around 130 degrees F (54C).
Buzz Aldrin did that too, computing a docking maneuver with a sextant and scratch paper on the fly from the spacecraft when his computer failed on him. It worked, and used less fuel than any of the computer-supported maneuvers they had done that went according to plan.
They gave all the early astronauts fighter-jet trainers to use as personal vehicles. They were all pilots anyway, and it was more time-efficient for them to be able to just be wherever they needed to be without delay or coordination.
There were gods on the land in those days. They’re still around, I don’t know where they are working now, but they are somewhere.
Wolves
It sounds like these people are simply delusional.
Agreed
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/germany-online-hate-speech-prosecution-60-minutes/
You can be prosecuted for incredibly silly things in Germany. Someone called a politician a dick online and got raided for it. To me it sounds like an incredibly stupid law.
They say “social media companies” (which includes feddit.org? Maybe?) can be prosecuted if they don’t crack down on “hate speech,” although in practice they have been doing it almost entirely to the actual users. They have gone after Twitter. It’s not obvious to me that feddit.org could get prosecuted in reality, but it’s not obvious to me that they could not, and it’s not my balls in the vice at the end of the day.
On the other hand, we are quickly reaching a point in the world where it’s either fight for justice, or we’re all going to work in the mines and face firing squads if we disagree. Germany of all places should have some familiarity with the concept “fuck what is lawful, this is wrong, I want to be on the right side of history even if I might get sent to the principal’s office.” No consequence the feddit admins would be facing would be life-changing in any reality, and there are a lot of other people whose consequences definitely are.
I 100% agree with this. I was actually confused for a long time by how people on Lemmy.ml are so universal about using the same types of bad thought patterns and arguments… they came across as genuine, individual people, not like some of the propaganda accounts that all employ the same lazy dishonest methods because they are literally just reading from the same handbook. But certain ways of looking at things and flaws in their critical thinking, all the .ml people just happen to share (or it happens to be really common for users there). It was really odd and I couldn’t understand it.
I have reached a tentative conclusion that maybe they just tend to be young or be really unfamiliar with reading critically or being rigorous about judging an argument… and that is why they are still comfortable on .ml. I think it is self-selecting. They wouldn’t be there if they weren’t taken in by certain types of failed logic, because that is the logic that is enforced from above over there.
I’m still not 100% sure but it kind of seems to me like that is what is going on.
Completely agree with this also. I don’t think deleting or blocking this stuff is the answer, because that will always be a temporary solution. I think vigorously pushing back on it is the answer for exactly the reason that you said.
Lies in public discourse isn’t anywhere near a new problem, and humans do have methods to deal with it. It just takes time and it takes a sensible community where some of the tools that can give traction to the truth can get some leverage.
Yeah. Even Trump voters, I don’t really think are “the enemy.” Self defense is fine, they can be deadly dangerous in the short run. But in the long run they are more than anything victims of that same powerful machine, and the way to save ourselves will be to save them from it, too, so we can all survive together.