As always, I appreciate you and the content you post. I hope you’re doing well :)

I think it used to say “as little slavery as possible” or something like that but I don’t see that written out anymore, just implied.

From the inside of one I just opened:

Wow, I hadn’t heard this. Interesting.

https://web.archive.org/web/20250212234138/https://ew.com/bill-burr-and-billy-corgan-address-brother-rumors-in-surprise-meeting-8780626

Does anyone know who this person actually is? Shouldn’t we try to tell them this is happening?

How about all tech backdoors are bad and we should aim to use and make software and hardware that is ethically produced and usable without selling out your privacy and security?

Wear pink and hold up a tiny sign

For context:

Literally, this is a suicide cult.

Thank you for pointing that out, I have changed it to be more accurate.

I have heard of and witnessed an incredible amount of cognitive dissonance, horizontal and other ableism, anti-science, anti-masking, anti-vaccine and anti-health behavior and misinformation in my “thank god we live here” blue state, most often by folks who are less marginalized and otherwise less effected by the problems I listed above (but not always) and I don’t necessarily blame these people for being overwhelmed and confused because they’ve been intentionally captured in a disinfo bubble that is the result of being the target of concerted efforts by multiple actors at up to and including the state level to keep them that way for their own purposes, although I do hold them individually responsible for harm they are directly causing as a result, or partially responsible for harm they help to perpetuate that is done by systems or groups which can be massive. The work to undo the programming/socializing needs to start asap on an individual level or if we ever have the chance to make something new it will end up having the same problems. Deconstruction of harmful behaviors and thoughts is necessary, with professionals or loved ones or on ones own, whatever the case, the point is to stop doing the dirty work for corporations and billionaires and anyone else who benefits from these hierarchies by reinforcing the values they want us to have such as obedience to authority and individualism.

I always think it’s so weird when someone uses the aryan nazi blonde hair blue eye chad guy or whatever it’s called to show the “good old days” or whatever. Additionally in this case I find it curious that the images used for the folks who seem to represent the regressive anti-science crowd are a group of characters with more diverse looks. Care to explain your choices OP? @not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone

Edit: thank you for the correction!

Well here it sort of does. “Without consequences” might be more accurate but what Elon does and says is de facto policy at this point

attempting to change the topic we are actually discussing

How exactly am I doing that by pointing out that you’re not actually arguing in good faith?

You are projecting in your accusation that I am attempting to change the topic, as you are the one who initially posted a top level comment attempting to shift the blame to politicians for convincing people to buy a car from a known Nazi’s company, which by the way is a bullshit premise in the first place for many reasons including that there are plenty of other EV manufacturers and no one forced anyone to buy a Nazi car.

You’re being disingenuous, for example by equating the cybertrucks and some other Teslas being “destroyed” (sure in some cases but not by slices of cheese or notes) with any and all electric cars, or by equating the negative sentiment against Tesla with negative sentiment against any EV.

Alt National Park Service comes to mind. They’re doing incredible work

Already been boycotting target

It is still a good reason not to use Ecosia, however.

Where are the Nazis, here?

Luckily I don’t see many here (Lemmy), and if I do I am prepared to confront them in whatever way is required. Please point me in their direction if you know of any. I hope you’re not calling the people who are upset by this situation Nazis, because I haven’t seen any behavior that would warrant that and it would be very alarming and disappointing if that was happening here in a digital space I have come to feel safer in than most others, and would warrant an evaluation of what I am doing here, and I hope that I haven’t been spending my time reaching out and talking to and just associating with people who hold those beliefs.

A trans user was just harassed off the Fediverse by these people

I saw some of the comments that person was making. If they have to go somewhere else to learn how to respect spaces specifically curated by and for trans people that’s fine with me, I didn’t get the feeling they (or for that matter, you) were willing or able to do so at this point, at least in this specific case in the way that was asked.

And please don’t throw in my face again their (or for that matter, your own) marginalized status, it feels to me like it’s being used as some kind of gotcha or get out of jail free card, and that is disrespectful as much as most anything that I’ve seen* has happened in this thread.

I am hoping that by adding my perspective others might feel supported or safer here, and others yet will hopefully see that horizontal harm is a thing that we have to be aware of and identify and do the work to minimize, internally and externally (referring to both the harm and the work).

I’m bitching about people doing that.

I am not talking directly to anyone but you, and here, you are talking to me, please keep that in mind. It’s fine to complain and always good to speak out against harm coming unwarranted or unfairly to others, but I’m talking to you about your behavior.

Please feel free to reach out for further 1:1 discussion, or not if you do not want to. It’s about time we end the the perpetuation of harm in online and physical spaces and in the systems that we live under. Please also feel free to reach out for support with other efforts towards that goal or other similar ones.

Edited to add language to clarify a bit, if others feel like I’m wrong in my assessments and what I’ve said I am open to feedback, I’m not trying to deny anyone’s experience or minimize harm that has come to others. My goal is always to prevent and reduce harm and if I’m not doing that I would hope someone here would call me in.

You’re being obtuse and I hope when things cool down you’re able to see the harm this behavior is causing in this specific circumstance and also more generally. I understand that you probably have good intentions but I think you’re either very misguided, trolling, reacting without thinking through the impact of your behavior, or some combination of these things, and I do feel like the ban was warranted especially considering the fit you’re throwing. I have respect for the involvement you have in sustaining and contributing platform and the effort you clearly put into it, and I have seen you say things I really agreed with, but this is too much for me. This is not how you encourage left unity and safe and sustainable practices that support as many people as possible. I know you know about the paradox of tolerance.

Do you not know the history of Zionism?

Edit: let me rephrase that in a less “personal attack”-y way. Zionism has historically been supported by Nazis, US, and the far right generally. It isn’t your fault for not knowing this and I’m sorry if my initial comment came off rude. Here are some resources for further reading (as always, check sources for claims made on Wikipedia, and engage media literacy skills when reading these pages. The topic is highly controversial):

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_collaboration_with_Nazi_Germany

https://electronicintifada.net/content/how-zionism-helped-nazis-perpetrate-holocaust/37326

I don’t know if you realize this but when you say “you’re being picky” about food in contexts such as this it can be considered ableist, and also dismissive and inconsiderate in my opinion. I prefer oatmeal to eggs but if someone told me I was “being picky” because of a choice I made because of price, sensory experience, and energy cost, I would be offended. I wouldn’t say this every time the word is used but the context and your username make me think it is appropriate and you might be receptive to the feedback.