Got that on Programmer Humor last year! Finding that kind of unintentional message is always funny

Upvoting. Pisses me off because I found alternatives (sadly in a G7 area so I cannot answer your question, closest things I know of for my G7 area is NextDoor which does have a decent amount of local participants but is not selling-focused, and BuyNothing which has basically no participants in my area) and they have so little usage, so if I want to participate in random-person-to-random-person selling I HAVE to use Meta’s piece of shit. I’m usually not that aggressive and I usually don’t namecall. I really hate Facebook.

I just will not participate. I am also lucky enough to be in a financial and material situation where I can middle finger them instead of being forced to use it because I am in desperate need of a cheap deal for some item quick.

Will investigate other options mentioned here, good question.

My heart breaks for cool ideas that got taken by scammers and are now forever associated with financial predators and will probably never see legitimate use.

I’d imagine that you graduate high school at 18 and choose to go to college for the next 4, meaning you graduate as a 22-year old. Add or subtract a year for birthdays that align oddly with the academic year.

On one hand, you should probably indeed take personality quizzes claiming to be scientific online with a grain of salt and actually check if they have that kind of backing.

On another, they’re fun. I am indeed the type of person who takes shitty online quizzes! (And their sometimes-higher-quality sibling, the academic survey. I really miss r/samplesize) And that doesn’t necessarily make me an idiot. I do wonder how to let my fellow quiz takers know that there are a lot of claims to scientific validity out there that just are not true without being a buzzkill, or condescending to the ones who already know and still participate for fun—because I absolutely get wanting to combat pseudoscience and misinformation.

However, I didn’t take this quiz myself, I found this in a post online and thought Programmer Humor subscribers would find it funny.

Thanks for explaining, I didn’t think you were insinuating that they were lying at all! I may have been overly influenced by another comment

+1. I do believe the user you are replying to but I believe you too. People can have different experiences without lying or being disingenuous. I’m probably more tech-savvy than the average user but far below average for programming.dev or a Linux community. For me, Linux Just Works out of the box, but I admit I’m on a gaming-specific distro (Nobara, a Fedora derivative) and I’m only using it to be a gaming computer. Sometimes it opens a web browser. Art, music, programming, printing all happen somewhere else (my Mac).

Wait no, I never had to change IDs. They are all unique and have been since I first defined them. I meant that the ID attribute of my element is the same as its name attribute and also its value attribute. Does any of the advice change given this?

Thank you!

Thank you again so much for your advice. I read it all :)

I am curious if it is viable to do it just pure JS or if I really need to learn some popular frameworks/libraries. I have no idea where this resistance comes from, guessing it’s perhaps because “oh wow a whole framework” seems more intimidating than “learn to fix your code in a language you already know a little bit”, as someone unfamiliar with frameworks. I should probably learn them anyways.

I do have some of the code commented but I also recently found according to https://refactoring.guru/ that this is bad?

Final thing: most resources I am aware of are for cleaning up object-oriented stuff. Wondering about resources for cleaning up non-object-oriented stuff and when I should and should not be doing object-oriented stuff, seeing as I did not write this raw JS object-oriented. (Yes, I know you can still kind of imitate some of the design patterns anyways, just curious.)

Also need to find out if if’s okay to have the same thing appear twice in the HTML and how to put that in a constant if not, or if it would be better to programmatically generate it because a lot of it is pretty repetitive and the same string everywhere (except for the name attribute sometimes).

Again, thank you so much for your advice! I’ll definitely be checking these resources.

It is JavaScript!

I wanted to say just thank you so much for your feedback and help, I really appreciate it. I’ll probably try to handle it as an array until final display to the user (tbh probably just me), where the commas and spaces will be used because that’s how English works and seeing an output of stringOne,stringTwo,stringThree without the space would just irritate me a lot.

I am aware of unit testing and know I should use it. I also didn’t use any frameworks and I’m not sure what I should use to test it when I didn’t use Node.js or React or anything like that (not sure if “framework” is the right word). My only knowledge of them is that sometimes when I fork other peoples’ projects I have to do stuff like npm install and npm run build and I have a vague overview idea of what those commands do (install dependencies, compile the stuff and run it). What I actually did to test things was just using the website. I let it go because it is small, under 200 lines of code, and probably will not expand very much.

Specifically the actual JS never has the string written down! I grab it from the HTML. Where it does show up several times: the element’s name, ID (wonder if I can just wipe it out of the name), often its value, and in the element’s label in the for attribute. Not sure what best practice is here.

I actually wrote it just once. It acquired the space like this:

I concatenate a bunch of strings together, and add a comma and space between them so I could get stringOne, stringTwo, stringThree etc. I later need to decompose that. I remembered I separated stuff with a comma, but forgot about the space following the comma and that is how I ended up having to deal with " NameHere" vs “NameHere” without having actually written NameHere several times in my code. Is there a better way to go about this?

I have also just read my post again and it explicitly contradicts “I actually wrote it just once”. Not sure if I did write it multiple times and merely forgot as I typed this comment and claimed to write it just once, or if I just pretended I wrote it multiple times when it was only once so I could simplify explaining my problem. For the purpose of my question though, let us pretend I did write it once. I promise I am aware that strings that are frequently used should be made constant, although I could use more specifics on what “frequently used” is (more than once?) and I’m wondering if you actually should not really use strings at all and always go for constants.

Not sure if this question is too noobish for !programming@programming.dev so I posted it here just in case.