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Cake day: December 13th, 2024

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  • They grew up getting their heads shoved into toilets, and are now eager to shove somebody else’s head into the toilet. I’m in my mid-30s, and I absolutely remember the teachers turning a blind eye to a bunch of kids ganging up on me with sticks in middle school, only to get detention for hitting them back with the book of arthurian legends I was trying to read.

    We basically got taught that bullying is a good thing the strong do to the weak, and it fucked up multiple generations.


  • Instead of being blinded by feelings, we need to start working together to craft new narratives for the results we actually want. It’s not even that hard to do.

    Bingo.

    I once got somebody to think differently about green energy by harassing the power of patriotism. His initial argument basically boiled down to “new is scary and I don’t see why we need to change anyways”, and I hit him with a “what are you talking about, innovation is what made america great”, and I could see the loading icon spin in his brain.

    I’ve also gotten conservative family in on medicare-for-all by pointing out that the military maybe doesn’t have enough healthy citizens to pull from if a crisis happened, and if we’re gonna be serious about national defense, we absolutely need national healthcare.


  • I don’t know whether entheogen was the material in question.

    En-theo-gen, where ‘theo’ is the same as ‘theology’, roughly means ‘to commune with god’, so it’s any psychoactive substance used religiously. It covers everything from the wine in christian communion to a witch’s psychoactive sybian, haha.

    Forgot to thank you for the clearly knowledgeable response!

    Any time!



  • It sounds like a few different things got mashed together there. Ergot is a hallucinogenic fungus that grows on rye, and is speculated to be the cause of some of the witch panics. It’s not the same fungus found in Roquefort, but it is what they use to make LSD.

    Witches flying is hypothesized to be entheogen use, since a common side effect is feelings of floating, flying, or otherwise ‘being high’.



  • I was raised in the New Apostolic Reformation, so I was deep deep into crazyland. It made a lot of promises that never happened and made a lot of statements that didn’t line up. It took a few years, and there was a LOT of resistance on my end, but I eventually realized that one side was going to make my life better, and one side would make my life worse.

    The hardest part of deradicalizing people is keeping a level head, because coming at it with anger is playing into the indoctrination. I was raised to believe that people were going to hate me for speaking the truth, and that the anger I was getting was evidence that the cult was correct. This is where the persecution fetishism comes from, they’re trying to convince their brain in lieu of facts. Getting internet hate is like a meditative litany in a way, it’s seen as a digital analogue to a scourge purging the weakness from you and leaving only the pure fire of god behind. I honestly wouldn’t have gotten out if it weren’t for my gaming group believing I could be a cool person, and taking the time to educate me instead of just kicking me or hurling hot takes at me.

    I’m now big on Street Epistemology as a framework for deradicalization.