It’s extremely cringe to hear “what do we want?? ABUNDANCE!” but I power through it

I’ve done both. I’m correct on this one, sorry.

Yeah but it’s extremely fucking ripe for canvassing something or anything cool. A lot of people out there are correctly pissed off, and are even vaguely aware that the 50501 stuff doesn’t take them anywhere.

You walk up: "what are we doing here though? Like I’m just as anti-trump as you are, but are we trying to impeach him again or something? Didn’t work the last time, and even if you got him out then it’s JD in office (yay?)

What our community needs is [org or PSL or something]. you should sign here and come to our meetings and start working aggressively with us to improve our community. We’ll do it right in front of Trump’s face! If you think about it, that’s an even louder message than this protest!"

No, I currently work with my union who has a lot of DSA-adjacent type stuff going on. Most of this is just online and IRL yapping, just to get the juices flowing in people who have a left-of-liberal mindset.

I might be down to have more specific conversations with people who have an established account on here (like you), so DM if you’d like to carry that on a bit.

I don’t think revolution will happen in the imperial core, but we can fight for social democracy and force the federal government to shut it down. It would be a great experience for liberals to see their electoral movement get shut down on their faces. Those are the circumstances under which people will shift left into joining an outright socialist org (perhaps a party?) that has a regional focus. I hope to be in the mix when that happens ofc (maybe I’ll see you there??)

Let’s do it!

Cause we are still chock fucking full of liberals who are barely ready to fight for fucking anything (including basic social democratic reforms that they already believe in). Theyre coming around to “the illegitimate colonizers of the United States government have nothing to offer you and never will, so we might as well focus on the illegitimate colonizer state governments which at least offer a smaller playing field for us to actually do a couple things to stabilize ourselves with some succdem shit” type of thinking.

If we can rouse some real grassroots direct democratic support for some succdem shit, then the US will be forced to crush it and heighten internal tensions, or let it slide and the West coast might actually start to believe a better future is possible.

The average west coaster has views to the left of the Democratic party at both the state and national levels. Objective right now is to make that apparent, and jdpon don is doing a lot to help that along. “Hey CA! if the feds are actually going to cut all of your federal funding, why TF are you sending them 30% to get nothing in return?”

I already know that there are Cascadia state agencies that are preparing to reject the Trump admin funding that comes loaded with “you must cooperate with ICE” and “you must hollow out your DEI completely” strings attached. Looking forward to the US weakening its own taxation authority, cause it releases some obvious fucking questions, even for liberals! MSM will have a very challenging time trying to spin that narrative if it takes root among “progressive liberals”.

Anyway, the ingredients are there, we just need to turn up the stove this summer and get it simmering. If Dems lose in 28, “West coast independence” will be a viewpoint at the fringes of the mainstream in 2030. Won’t be any more controversial that “yeah I’m a Bernie fan, off if you think it’s ‘unrealistic’ or whatever”.

More and more people are saying it!

Welcome home, comrade!

• 22/hr is fine if you’re cool with a lower end apartment or roommate(s). Seattle is more expensive.
• Cities are full of liberals with some leftist presence. Seattle has had Sawant for several years, Portland just got a bunch of DSAers on their newly chartered council. Most young-ish progressive people are like “let’s join Canada!”. There is a growing movement for a statewide Universal Healthcare plan (some potential good news, for once).
• The nature is excellent, no matter what type you prefer (except warm tropical beaches ofc). From Eugene you’re an hour or two from the scenic McKenzie River, or the coast (Oregon Dunes where Frank Herbert was inspired while writing Dune). Big trees everywhere.
• It’s white af. Plenty of racist history to get into against the Inidigenous, Chinese, black people, etc…
• Rural areas are often still very racist. Passing through most places shouldn’t be a problem for PoC, but Baker City (and other places that are basically idaho), and small towns should have their guard up. Ashland, Eugene, Silverton, and Bend are all liberal for their size. Corvallis maybe too, it’s a college town so tis fine, just maybe not as disproportionate as the others.
• Portland is a world class food city if that’s something you’re into. Seattle has more sights if you manage to make the trip up there. Vancouver feels like an actual first world city, too bad you can afford to live there, but it’s a nice weekend visit as well. Probably more of an after-college trip though.

Not much to say about relocating, but can talk about the PNW if you have any lingering questions