But if the only way to do it is to have ads or selling our data etc, then I don’t want that.

Nobody wants that. It’s a bunch of lil features:

• following users in Lemmy,

• allow mods flair users in a community (so subscribers/patrons can show off),

• Make it easier to see popular posts on Lemmy and Mastodon,

Stuff like that.

Agreed, except you’re wrong about your baby. Mine were the good looking ones.

Isn’t that a New World disease? Unless you’re saying the Vikings raided Columbia (and made it back), it’s at least 200 years too soon.

how?

I basically flipped a coin to choose between a couple of universities.

Most of my friendships come from people I met in uni or their friends. Most of my jobs have come from them.

My extended family lived in the town where I ended up. I learned a lot about how adults should behave from one of them, and stuck around to take care of another one of them.

If the coin had landed on the other side, I would have ended up in a lil university town, gotten a completely different friend group, and (probably) ended up in the US.

It’s not just ad-free, it’s actively anti-corporate, anti-advertising, even anti-monetization.

There are upvoted positive posts and comments about

1. the Switch 2 announcement (but not Nintendo’s legal policy),

2. the Framework advertising event last week,

3. Valve/Steam/SteamOS/Steamdeck/Gabe Newell in general,

4. Costco in general,

5. EVs in general (excluding Tesla and Cybertrucks 😂),

6. podcasts that solicit funding and carry advertising,

7. anime and anime adjacent products,

8. Lenovo’s laptops,

9. individuals selling stuff on Redbubble/Etsy/OnlyFans,

10. subscription razor blade delivery (not from Amazon),

11. and “voting with your wallet”.

It’d be cool if the platform made it easier for orgs to build and interact with a following here. Niches of users really like talking about them. That doesn’t mean ads, it means features that would benefit regular users as well.

maybe this place is just not for influencers - not like the corp platforms, anyway

The things people need to build a livelihood on a platform are quality of life features. In a lot of cases, I think it’s small stuff: being able to reward patrons with a tag on a specific community; automatically highlighting popular posts; making it easy to find a user’s monetization page; etc.

I think the fediverse will attract more and more people with its network effects, but probably never all of the people all of the time.

At the moment, Lemmy is an ad-free version of Reddit missing some community and notification features. There are good political reasons to be here, but that hasn’t driven a sustained increase in users.

So we won’t get critical mass for network effects by being a better Reddit.

One to make the platform self-sustaining (or grow) is to give creators a reason to use the platform, which will give people a reason to come and stay.

Absolutely - I wanted to list interactions between regular users and someone who makes money with a platform.

After a bunch of Twitter users (including journalists) bounced off Mastodon when Elon bought it, the fediverse needs to understand why, and think about what it means to be a viable platform.

All of it

To be clear, users can still manually share Google Photos pics with connected frames.

It’s shitty that they removed apps ability to see all photos when authorized, though.

I want to be among people who interact as equals, who share ideas, who cooperate in a genuine way.

I think online journalism might be a good example of influencers and users interacting as equals. Users provide extra information, ask questions, reify, and help highlight where the journalist can focus. The journalist does the leg work to produce novel news.

If we try a shortcut to more users through money, what is the point?

To build an interesting, self sustaining network, where people can express themselves fully, and understand each other.

The features I’m suggesting would benefit everyone: a decent view of trending topics/posts/tags; mod-controlled tags; stuff like that. Most users would find them helpful, but a few could use it to build a livelihood that others value.

The unix surrealism Lemmite is awesome. They deserve my donations. Saying that people shouldn’t be able to use the platform to express themselves rejects a whole bunch of people.

Now, I also think that the monymaker needing to serve millions of people can go and do that elsewhere.

That’s the issue. If we’re gonna get evil tech bros out of our human interactions, we need to build a platform that doesn’t reject people who like to eat.

Journalists need to get access to sources, and want to see when events are happening.

Documentary creators want a way to create interesting and useful videos that will earn them a living.

Streamers want a platform that can serve a bunch of users with near-realtime (okay, just fast) interactions.

That’s what OP’s link is missing: being able to use a platform to do your preferred job is one of the things that makes a platform compelling. Until we have that, we’re rejecting a big part of our audience.

The fediverse won’t succeed just because it’s better. It will succeed if and only if people choose it.

Part of that is making it monetizable. Influencers can build huge followings (and make some cash) because existing platforms recommend their content to other users.

Mastodon devs have chosen not to provide recommendations and quote posts. That’s reasonable, but it reduces the utility of the platform, and it cedes space to Twitter & co.

To my knowledge, the only creator that’s exclusive to Lemmy is the unix surrealism author. Until it’s easy to monetize content, we’re gonna have a hard time attracting creators, and a hard time attracting users.

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Saxe-Coburg and Gotha playing the long game

But perhaps the most revolutionary idea to emerge from Nato’s Nordic expansion is the region’s “Total Defence” concept.

Also applied by Norway and Denmark, it considers national infrastructure such as the internet and telephony, energy generation and distribution, road networks, and secure supplies of food, medicine as parts of a total defence system.

Much of this may not be registered as defence spending in the statistics, but at the same time, none of it is free.

new cyberdeck. who dis?

even… Canadian procurement shudders can get hold of it

That’s too unrealistic for even NCD

Asimov lives!