Even ITT apparently

  • PugJesus@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    5
    arrow-down
    4
    ·
    22 hours ago

    As we all know, there was no conflict nor problematic ideas before billionaires or their equivalents.

    Billionaires don’t force people to become shithead followers of billionaires. People choose to become shithead followers of billionaires.

    • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      7
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      21 hours ago

      Free will is an illusion and this completely ignores the near monopoly they have on the media and information people are exposed to.

      Also, this isn’t saying they cause all problems, just a lot of them in our current society.

      • PugJesus@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        21 hours ago

        Free will is an illusion

        I knew you were going to say that.

        and this completely ignores the near monopoly they have on the media and information people are exposed to.

        Not really. We live in one of the freest eras of human expression, political and otherwise, ever known.

        Also, this isn’t saying they cause all problems, just a lot of them in our current society.

        I very much read it as “We shouldn’t be enemies of each other; we should be enemies of the billionaires!”

        But the awful truth is that, while we should be enemies of the billionaires, we are also very much justified in being enemies of each other. The idea that these people are just puppets dancing on their masters’ strings strips them of the very real agency they have and willingly exercise in service to abhorrent values and goals. If the apocalypse came tomorrow and no estate was worth more than a few days’ work when the dust settled, these people would still be parroting the horrible positions they do now.

        • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          4
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          21 hours ago

          So you think people just happened to decide on a narrow range of positions that are highly convenient to the ruling powers in society?

          Modern propagandists have realized it doesn’t matter if the truth is out there—you just need to make your narrative the loudest, most available, algorithmically boosted option and most people won’t put in the effort to question what you put in front of them.

          • PugJesus@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            20 hours ago

            So you think people just happened to decide on a narrow range of positions that are highly convenient to the ruling powers in society?

            Other way around. Ruling powers have established themselves around the narrow range of positions that people take. It’s why you see the same rot in every society, not just modern or Western or capitalist ones.

            Modern propagandists have realized it doesn’t matter if the truth is out there—you just need to make your narrative the loudest, most available, algorithmically boosted option and most people won’t put in the effort to question what you put in front of them.

            Sounds a lot less like a monopoly and a lot more like people choosing to be lazy and uninformed.