This may be pedantic to point out, but no state of Seppoland could ever have been part of Mexico for longer than 27 years — the span of time between Mexico’s declaration of independence and the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo. Even if we include being part of New Spain as “being part of Mexico”, then that just raises the question of when exactly you actually count a region as “being part of New Spain” as opposed to simply being claimed by Spain.
I dunno, I say “pedantic”, but it is probably good to keep in mind what the deeper implications of an assertion like “part of Mexico for hundreds of years” actually are. There are some worthwhile critiques of chicanismo and Mexican irredentism from Natives in these regions that make me wary of any rhetoric that seems too proximal to those ideologies.
yeah fair my knowledge of colonial mexican history is very spotty, especially with respect to relations with native americans, so i don’t know what i’m talking about here
claims of borders on european maps are different from realities on the ground but people from new spain/mexico definitely lived in the southwest united states for centuries before the US conquered them. this presence was long enough to develop dialects and cultural difference.
Mexico also barely controlled most of the territory in truth. In fact it was plagued by constant rebellions and secessionist movements, Mexico used go span from alaska (on paper) to Panama, from California to Louisiana.
This may be pedantic to point out, but no state of Seppoland could ever have been part of Mexico for longer than 27 years — the span of time between Mexico’s declaration of independence and the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo. Even if we include being part of New Spain as “being part of Mexico”, then that just raises the question of when exactly you actually count a region as “being part of New Spain” as opposed to simply being claimed by Spain.
I dunno, I say “pedantic”, but it is probably good to keep in mind what the deeper implications of an assertion like “part of Mexico for hundreds of years” actually are. There are some worthwhile critiques of chicanismo and Mexican irredentism from Natives in these regions that make me wary of any rhetoric that seems too proximal to those ideologies.
yeah fair my knowledge of colonial mexican history is very spotty, especially with respect to relations with native americans, so i don’t know what i’m talking about here
claims of borders on european maps are different from realities on the ground but people from new spain/mexico definitely lived in the southwest united states for centuries before the US conquered them. this presence was long enough to develop dialects and cultural difference.
New Mexico has a white Spanish community still.
Mexico also barely controlled most of the territory in truth. In fact it was plagued by constant rebellions and secessionist movements, Mexico used go span from alaska (on paper) to Panama, from California to Louisiana.
President Sheinbaum, my people yearn for freedom.