• clonedhuman@lemmy.world
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    11 hours ago

    I don’t think Saleh is saying anything about all police being this way.

    But the fact that any of them are like this, and that there are enough of them like this, is a genuine problem for the well-being of regular people.

    This isn’t an all-or-nothing situation. We can recognize that there are a significant number of police using violence to accomplish political ends without having to make a disclaimer about not all individual police being this way, because there are clearly enough of them behaving this way that there is real cause for concern.

    Wouldn’t you agree?

    • Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      10 hours ago

      Clearly enought haha yeah…yeah…21%…

      It is a big problem. I fully agree. A police in saxony had the german empire eagle stiched in the car seats. It is a problem, a huge problem.

      Though this isnt because the police is inherently nazis, like its being put here and constantly yelled with ACAB. I can say myself, having worked with the police in my city, Augsburg, and having had many encounters with them, these people do not represent the police all over.

      Clear distinction is key. If one puts innocent people in the same pot as normal people you aggrovate them and push them into this problem group, thus making this problem even bigger. One should never dehumanise. Never create this “us vs them” mentality". Doing this, you dont fight the problem, you radicalise yourself and this is a path that quickly only brings distruction.

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        9 hours ago

        That’s true but the centerism of pretending that systemic behavior is the doing of a few black sheep also doesn’t help to stop and make changes. Look at the West Bank, for years the European countries gave a free hand to Israel “oh but it is just a few settlers, Israelis want peace” and today? The whole places is riddled with colonies, stealing Palestinian land and making their lives unliveable. So yeah sure not all police are Nazis but when they behave like some or execute fascist laws then they are no better than the brown shirts of old. London police stood up when a peaceful protest came under fire by politicians and upheld the citizens’ right to protest. That’s how police should behave, as the ultimate keeper of our rights, not to tear them away.