• viking@infosec.pub
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    3 months ago

    Upside down crucifixion was considered the “humane” version, since blood would start pooling in the brain and the victim would pass out quick and die with relatively less pain/trauma. If they wanted someone to endure the torture for a prolonged time, e.g. to make a spectacle for onlookers out of it, people would be crucified with their head up.

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      3 months ago

      While there may well have been a Jesus of Nazareth which inspired the stories of the Bible… “Jesus” is a complete fabrication constructed over centuries based on fanfiction written at least a lifetime after the man who might’ve inspired such fiction was dead.

      Jesus the undead cleric demigod never existed in the same way Mithras never existed. It’s just a bronze age myth.

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      3 months ago

      academically no one disputes

      I’ll just stop you right there. The probability of there not being an academic dispute about anything is miniscule. There are broad agreements on some topics, but counterpoints will still be easy to find.

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        2 months ago

        My understanding from the Data over Dogma podcast (wherein a biblical scholar, and an atheist come together to trash evangelical apologia and other misconceptions about early Christianity and what the Bible contains/lacks) is that there is a single quasi-relevant academic that contends Christianity likely did not form around a historical person with a name similar to Jesus.

        His arguments have been examined by academics but not widely accepted. His arguments aren’t widely accepted because it seems a lot more likely that there was a guy named Jesus who whose teachings inspired a group of followers, than that a group of proto- Christians invented him.

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    3 months ago

    I believe that there was multiple ways and that upside down wasn’t necessarily the norm

    For example Seneca the Younger wrote as listed by the New World Encyclopedia (1)

    Crucifixion was carried out in many ways under the Romans. Josephus describes multiple positions of crucifixion during the siege of Jerusalem in 70 C.E. when Titus crucified the rebels;[10] and Seneca the Younger recounts: “I see crosses there, not just of one kind but made in many different ways: some have their victims with head down to the ground; some impale their private parts; others stretch out their arms on the gibbet.”

    At times the gibbet was only one vertical stake, called in Latin crux simplex or palus. This was the most basic available construction for crucifying. Frequently, however, there was a cross-piece attached either at the top to give the shape of a T (crux commissa) or just below the top, as in the form most familiar in Christian symbolism (crux immissa). Other forms were in the shape of the letters X and Y

    1. https://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Crucifixion citation 2

    Ive also listed the original source from their citation here

    Dialogue “To Marcia on Consolation,” 6.20.3 The Latin Library. Retrieved February 21, 2019 with Google Translate link here