Okay, I simply said he historically existed.

I’d just like to add that academically no one disputes his existence. That’s a militant atheist talking point.

Agreed! That was my interest and they just were pushing to end the meeting. Boring!

Idk but as one there is no way a bunch slightly racist old white Christian men can organize anything beyond the local and maybe state level.

Masonry is really cool and used to be highly influential for all levels of society but it’s not that anymore. It’s really sad. My grandparents generations were joiners. After the war everyone joined a society. My parents joined some. But nowadays that’s very rare. Everyone in my lodge was 50-80.

I think the propaganda comes from a similar place of earlier Jesuit propaganda. A bunch of men meeting in secret, seeking education away from church and state, highly involved in the community. Now it’s just having meals, meetings, and planning which charity event to do.