is there a federated platform similar to 4chan ie. topic boards with ephemeral linear message threads? i dunno how else to describe it but I like the 4chan format, it’s just got the worst people in the world on there (which I figure could be mitigated by the federated server type thing)
Any place with anonymous/ephermal account and posts as the default is going to attract the worst people in the world…
Wow that changed too politics quickly, why drag Trump and the GOP into this ? :)
While we all know you’re correct the sheer number of memes that can trace their origins to 4chan shows that anonymous, ephemeral content is pretty powerful.
and you can just have stricter rules!! it’s not impossible!
Tbf if you do have stricter rules the cesspit people would just move on
federated boards and servers with stricter rules against hate speech would make moderation better
I agree, I actually have been wanting a 4chan type replacement for a while and I believe there are enough tools out there with a federated space for it to be possible. 4chan’s method of communication in the best of times is fun and spurs some interesting conversations, when it’s done right. I think we all know what 4chan does wrong, mostly its lack of any noticeable moderation or automods.
If it had the same type of moderation tools that say BlueSky had though, where things like misinformation, slurs, etc. are removed/hidden as the default setting for users. Then this would go a long ways to building a kinder community/discussion space.
How exactly? You can’t just say “better because fedi”, that’s a non-answer.
stricter rules per instance is self explanatory, and moderation would be spread out more
ie. topic boards with ephemeral linear message threads
This describes a general forum format, but you might mean chan imageboards specifically. There have been federated imageboards for a while, but they’re very niche and experimental and I don’t see the value. The two examples I’ve heard of are NNTPchan (2015-present, NNTP protocol) and Fchannel (ActivityPub protocol).
There’s the related imageboard webring, but there’s no actual federated interaction between the boards, it’s effectively just cross-advertising to allow easier discovery.
IIRC, someone was talking about their p2p text only 4chan clone recently. I forget what it was called though.
Edit: found it.
Well… Lemmy?
yeah like lemmy but different
I mean if everything is ephemeral and the users are anonymous and don’t log in, the federation wouldn’t actually do anything.
Anyplace that allows, or in the case of 4chan, encourages purely Anon posting is going to be a cesspit. When there’s no accountability, no ID of any sort (even a screen name) to tie actions against then there’s no reputation to protect. It might be pleasant at first, but you can bet it won’t stay that way for long.
even a screen name
/. been around for awhile.
Yeah, was kind of clunky worded way to say ‘no ID’, /. Has screen names but in chan world everyone is the same ‘anonymous’. When everyone is faceless and nameless people tend to let the ugly out with ease.
edit: I’m not a regular of /. but it looks like there are ‘Anonymous Coward’ responses, but they’re more the exception than the rule. I’m sure the mods there have some measure of trolls to deal with.
you can make anonymous accounts for free on fedi, the best way to deal with it in both cases is to block tor and IP ban. either way i think freeze peach folks will avoid any platform with “woke” rules
You have got to be an absolute newfriend if you think that shit works at all even for 4chan itself.
aye, but it’s content moderation in general. you can anonymize yourself easily on any platform, 4chan just attracts worse people because of the existing culture
You can make anonymous accounts, but there’s a difference between ‘breadguy’ and ‘anon’. Who is literally everyone posting on the board. In the chan world so called namefags are shunned and not thought of as true channers. By having an identifiable name it gives you some measure of reputation, a name that you may hold some regard for, or at least that others could decide if they want to listen to or block.
I actually like to think of the chan boards as an experiment in social studies. What happens when you allow for purely repression and repercussion free interaction? There are plenty of people who will say and do some absurd things when they’re drunk that they wouldn’t dare to sober. What happens when that sense of untouchability is available at any time just by going to a website.
