• Allonzee@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    However much pain we’re feeling and will be feeling, as a nation not individuals, we deserve oh so much more for our inhuman crimes in the name of capitalist private profit. We destabilized entire nations trying to become societies solely to maintain access to their resources for our capitalist’s exploitation.

    Every American better hope nation state karma doesn’t exist.

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      24 hours ago

      I’m still waiting people understand that the way Trump treat Zelensky isn’t new in any way, most people are just aware of it now because it happened in Europe.

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      Oh fuck off with this “deserves” bs. Everything listed on that infographic happened before I was 18. I don’t “deserve” any of this.

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        You’re screaming “fuck off, I don’t deserve any of this because those thefts were carried out before I was 18”, but you’re screaming that sitting on the stolen furniture in a stolen house. The crimes mentioned predating your eighteenth birthday doesn’t mean shit when you’re still benefiting from the results of those crimes.

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          If someone gets abducted and put in a stolen house with stolen furniture, are they to blame?

          Like, I get it, we enjoy the privileges and share the responsibility to change shit. But responsibility and blame are two different things.

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            Agreed. The person I was replying to took the initial comment regarding nation karma for the US very personally and started ranting that he didn’t deserve this shit. No one blamed him, and I was trying to convey the same thing that you wrote: it doesn’t matter that we were not personally responsible for the historical crimes our nations committed, if the current society we live in still bases its wealth on what was stolen. We’d be indirectly benefitting from those crimes and therefore would have a responsibility to acknowledge that and try to do what we can to even things out if and when we can. Rejecting all links to those historical crimes and any responsibility for them can come across as arrogant to those on the other side of that equation, those who were robbed. But the person started hurling insults so I was obviously unable to communicate what I wanted to communicate.

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          Everyone is benefiting and being hurt by decisions made in the past or decisions that they cannot control. These are meaningless statements. They don’t cause action, they don’t make people feel like they should do something. They just annoy people. The statements are ignorant. You have no idea who I am, what I do, how I live, etc.

          So you can also respectfully fuck off as well.