Ending the genocide right now? My honest opinion a pause is possible if the US were made to choose between supporting Israel and fighting another war.

We saw some glimpses of this over their choice between Ukraine and Israel, they were able to support Israel because the pro-Ukraine/Nuland camp etc had already accepted defeat in early 2023 and you know that whole “we’re killing Russians for free this is the best deal ever” quote from an US politician. We saw the US wasn’t willing to give precious modern equipment to Ukraine, none of the real NATO inventory, Ukraine got literaly nothing more modern than garbage cold war museum history cobbled together on the last minute. You can go back and see those Ukrainian offensives shit for yourself.

So the point then is if a bigger war or threat than Israel appears then I expect the US would tell Israel to hold back, the US can’t deal with a possible war with Iran and Yemen at the same time either.

But the point then is what is this bigger war, what is this bigger threat? There is none. The US is successfully building up for war with China in a few years time while China themselves are busy patting themselves on a job well done simply saying “US bad” every 2 weeks.

Israel will continue to get a free reign because Ukraine’s only purpose now is to make EU libs shit themselves and pay more for NATO which btw Trump also already succeeding making EU members will pay 5% of their GDP.

There could be hope, but it requires actual will to fight the US directly.

The other option would rely the key Israeli trading partners to actualy grow a backbone, Israel still relies on a few key imports e.g coal. But I’m not sure this would stop it even if it happened.

This is way better than China investing in some poor countries to extract their minerals and resources to fuel their own manufacturing sector at home, and in effect, just another form of colonization.

Currently, China wants to have its cake and eat it too. They want to be the global export superpower (which squeezes the wages of the other Global South countries because they simply do not have the production of scale to match China’s) and at the same time they don’t want other countries to save in yuan. … How is that “chauvinist”?

Come on I know you can do better than that. You damn well know the modern Chinese rethoric is literaly, and I’ll quote Xi in 2017,

You do understand “economic globalization” here is a vulgar term right? Its the mainstream economics and neoliberal version of what Marxists and socialists call Imperialism.

I’m not saying China is necessarily imperialist nor that they defend it in all cases, but they kind of do somewhat here and that they have already made their bed with its existence and even praise it as a necessity, calling for us to just merely iron out the bad edges.

Its impossible to unironicaly call for peace and conciliation with the western imperialists and it realy is almost no better than doing it yourself. Almost because we’re not idiot liberals, yeah by all means China would rather act to liberate these countries than not, but at the same time they very openly have made the bed with the fact imperialism exists and its beneficial to them, therefore there is no alternative.

Their only message, for a decade now is only the same naive liberal-left idea that all we need is better Capitalism 2.0 maybe if everyone is at peace and the starving miners can get a good wage it wouldn’t be so bad.

He literally says “Its true globalization has brought new problems but its not a reason to abandon it altogether”. This is vulgar liberal mainstream economics garbage.

The only difference from our socialist position from reddit/western liberals is that liberals claim China is colonizing Africa with silly predatory loan etc That is amateur shit.

Our socialist critique is that China while not directly supporting or directly endeavoring in Imperialism themselves, they nevertheless already express support for the continuation of the current “globalization” trend, openly saying there is “no alternative” and that the best we can hope for is to iron out the bad aspects. This is not principled at all period and yes if the current system only works for them then it is chauvinism.

From the gulf states to Vietnam and China, why is international politics so weak to try to do anything to barely slap "Israel"s hand? Serious, not shitposts.

Because this is not about Israel primarily, its mostly about relations with the US. Just talking about China here, lets go by steps.

First if you recall in 2022 for brief moment there was this “Chinese peace plan” which was just some sort of policy paper the Chinese threw around. Even that little misunderstanding was unacceptable for the US but most importantly China realized any action during the Ukraine war, action favorable towards Russia specifically would be seen as anti-western and face retaliation so that was abandoned(even though it was literaly nothing worthwhile) and China has stayed our of saying anything about Ukraine since then.

Further back recall how China tried so desperately to restore relations during the Huawei exec stuff and the Trump trade war. China has always wanted to be on good terms with the US. This is incrinsingly difficult. That 2022 lesson culminated with the Pelosi incident. China talked big about consequences and eat an egg to the face. They’re not actualy ready nor willing to fight the US period.

But to continue, none of these recent bad experiences, from the Huawei exec(2021), to COVID racism(2020+), HK riots and international ONG intervention(2019), Xinjiang/Uyghur and literaly CIA funding ETIM terrorists inside China(that famous US general admitting this is from around 2015 or so IIRC ).

None of this was enough to convince them that a good relation with the US is impossible.

So when Oct 7th 2023 China already learned both from Pelosi/Ukraine that Chinese “protagonism” in the international stage will face real backlash.

Therefore they adjusted, remember they flip flopped their Foreign minister Wang Yi/Qin Qang. I don’t think there was anything beyond the official reasons but its hard not to speculate. Maybe that was one attempt to change course, but that was also exactly the period the Biden team doubled their efforts with the Chinese EV/batteries stuff and it worked really well for the US as China ultimately conceded i.e they’ve now turned to mainstream fiscal policy to boost spending because “everyone”(read:mainstream neoliberal economics) agrees China got too much industry. In short you could even say recent experience showed to them their foreign policy wasn’t “working” to appease the US.

So again, Oct 7th happens and China is now committed to being just a voice at the UN because they believe this is the most they can do without consequences. It is not just about Israel, its about the extremely consistent Chinese commitment to the current “rules” based order. During the first Trump term they were saying the same thing, how “populism” is bad and we must have a stable global community etc.

Our perception of change came from the brief moments of Chinese frustration and pro-China activism, specialy with Xinjiang stuff since ~2018 and also their apparent strong support Russia in 2022, that maybe now we’re ready and willing to fight the western consensus. That was just wrong.

As it turned out the support for Russia is just rethoric too. US sanctions successfully stop Chinese banks from doing business in Russia etc, The most we can say is the sanctions were not 100% effective, but they were at least impactful enough. You can definitely be sure if Russia wasn’t the USSR’s corpse laying around with 2000 nukes NATO would already be fighting in Ukraine imo and all we would see is more US bad talk.

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If you’re interested in the South Africa situation I recommend Patrick Bond.

I’ll quote the relevant part of this recent interview

And also here in December last year, From South Africa to Syria, rising perils for Palestine solidarity, just a small part, he was 110% bang on.

People saying Trump is killing the economy and the #1 proof is… the stock market going down.

After years of “Bernie bros” and even some Dem playing with the idea that billionaires and Wall St are bad or at least deserve to pay more taxes etc, the first proof that Trump is bad is the damn line going down.

They say this unironically and expected this to resonate with the same people that voted from Trump when the line was also going up and the Biden team celebrated it. Bidenomics shit and liberal news asking themselves why people hate them when the “economy is doing so great”. Go to reddit during the tariff crash, it was literaly this leopardatemyface shit but all stock market line go down pearl clutching shit.

And now that the market did the 180 all those dems look like clowns as expected. They have no message, even when they try its blatant stupidity and hipocrisy. The economy is only crashing when the line goes down, tell that to the Trump voter that suffered years of Bidenomics inflation shit “everything is great” lol.

It’s Bill Maher, John Stewart, Stephen Colbert, John Oliver, etc. They’re just on cable TV which nobody under 50 watches anymore. Not to mention, they’re insufferable to everyone except establishment dems.

When I was back watching some Hasan streams last year I think IIRC even at the height of that mini donor revolt and Biden dropout, the problem was that these are not even all that bad, there was some good reaction from both Hasan and his type of viewers(chat) to that stuff when they were(I think John was best?) consistently shitting on both candidates but specialy Biden.

I’m going from memory but from the clip segments Hasan would watch on stream, it didn’t even look that bad if they had all kept that consistent at least appearance of indignation and revolt towards the situation. They could have managed to pull some younger viewers through that sort of pipeline, even if just temporarily. But once Kamala’s campaign got underway and that brief moment she was up in the polls etc it was all back to normal then it was realy over.

So I’d even argue the issue is not necessarily just its old cable shit since you know you can find these clips on YT later etc. It realy is more of the shit content. They’re so old and disconnected etc. But if they all even tried to shift there is already a sort of pipeline ready for them.

I’m glad to watch him suffer but at the same time there is not really even a tiny vestige of a conscious mind inside that walking corpse so this barely fulfills me.

They get to suffer only after well and truly it doesn’t matter anymore, this is not justice its almost as if there was a deity of irony laughing at us at every step.

You’re not wrong perhaps fundamentally as yes MGS itself got some very messy writing, retcons and shit, but I also feel like “movie standards” seems like a strawmen at this point after about 15 years of capeshit, disney shit, sequels and reboots most of which are still extremely profitable and somewhat successful have just lowered those standards significantly.

People like Nolan have achieved legendary success with barely above average quality overall so I’d put him a possibly like a Nolan tier below at the start, definitely above with experience. If the average person can say the love Nolan shit then Kojima would be more than fine. Standards are just as much about what the audience is willing to call good or bad.

Sure I’d agree the best movies in history are on a completely different level of what he could possibly achieve, this is undeniable but you don’t need to reach that level.

You should have a listen to Norman Finkelstein as IMO he is by far the only correct(western) authority on this. His latest take is Palestinians will leave eventualy(the last 10 minutes here) because there is realy nothing left except rubble and a pile of corpses. Pragmatically speaking they’ve been through a lot but as he says its dangerous to portray them as if they have some sort of superhuman strength to resist pain and suffering.

By all metrics and the historical record of Israeli offensives so far, this is an order of magnitude worst than ever before given e.g the amount of rubble that needs to be cleared for reconstruction to even begin.

So why is this the one? Maybe not this plan specifically, but all the indication is that they’ll succeed one way or the other. I don’t want to say it as it sounds like heresy, but relocation is still far better than the real alternative i.e refusing to leave and even more deaths as a result.

Good post. Looking at the two options you mentioned I wonder if there is a third one.

Namely if I could bet on smaller and historicaly based European nationalism to bring them to fight among themselves again. Granted the historical reasons are very different, colonialism played a big role and ultimately it was indeed America’s WW2 victory that finaly put an end to any hopes of a local EU supremacy fight.

Yet I think this threat still lingers. Look back at the 2008 crisis specificaly and the fallout from Greece, Spain, Italy, Ireland and others, but specialy Greece. I wonder how the EU would have reacted if Greece had indeed taken extreme measures to get the fuck out of the EU and if that could have led to others following. The whole point of the troika was to impose German supremacy to begin with.

Later there was Brexit too but it seems it was far more of a reactionary UK self contained issue rather than a real fight between EU elites. Yet it once again proves the EU is not a sacred concept under certain circunstances.

Historicaly speaking, all major EU countries were at war with each other practically at one point or another. Those old catalysts do not exist anymore obviously, as none of these countries have realistic hopes of (re)building an empire.

Yet I look at climate change as a possible big catalyst. Yes as you note EU and German fascists have it easy by blaming immigrants but I wonder if this will remain as easy if these immigrants are Italian or Polish, heck even Spanish.

I wonder if the next catalyst will simply be the friction between the current EU neoliberals who rely on the concentration of German economic power and dominance over the other members, those who still want to play by the rules of “civilization” while far right starts to look at the EU itself with skepticism and as yet another land to be conquered so that they can be in charge of closing of the borders.

Its why I mention the historical roots because, the modern “western” identity is fickle at best and Germans, French and English have been at war for centuries. I’m not sure how much actual faith there is on true European “unity” as is enforced by German/France under US leadership at this point, this unity and even such concept is an extremely modern concept to begin with and if the EU leadership starts to look increasingly weak and dependent on US leadership than certainly this may well fuel reactionary forces regardless.

On that aspect I don’t think the US “management” of Nazism is the only way out either as an escape valve to blame the Rest of the World(immigrants, Russia etc), the historical precedent would put all these white Europeans fighting each other for centuries earlier too.

So yeah basically for now German’s army is basically just to fuel NATO but in the long term I would grab some popcorn and watch out for future intra-European fighting like the good old days too.

Time is on the side of the Russians in Ukraine and the Chinese on pretty much anything else when it comes to confronting the US empire.

I’m sorry but this is just wrong, I mean believe what you want but this is not rational take unless you’re discounting climate change.

I’ve maintained for months now, China is obsessed with the status quo just as much as western neoliberalism. The best time for China to fight would be today not 10 or 20 years from now. China’s dengism model is absolutely committed and reliant on the global economy remaining stable and open, in their own words they love “globalization”. Yet climate change is absolutely surely going to destroy this facade of normalcy, we already saw this during COVID. The only way “time is on their side” is if you bet on this staying exactly as they are which to me is just antithetical to a “communist” party.

You’re seeing exactly the reason why and exactly the reason why I’ve become so disillusioned and sad about China in the past year or 2, the rest of the world wont survive that long. Palestine is already destroyed, but who else is going to be China’s or Russia’s ally? Please don’t say BRICS lest Xi himself will tell you how much he doesn’t want BRICS to be a bloc or to revive east vs west mentality.

We’re definitely going beyond 2 and then 2.5, probably 4 degrees warming before 2060-80.

At that point its game over for everyone, period. I joke actualy, personaly I think realisticaly its already over, at least in terms of mitigating it entirely, the best we can hope for is… well avoiding extinction.

There is no such thing as “time is on their/our side”. it is quite literally the opposite IMO. Unless the CPC is planning to relocate 1 billion people to live on some grandiose underground communist paradise, its more than over, period.

We should be fighting the hardest now when we can still afford to organize and benefit from normal capitalism. Waiting untill the end of the world, when countries and populations are left scrambling for survival only means humanity will turn towards eco-fascism.

What pisses me off is exactly this shit, billions of people will die so only then will these piece of shit garbage “communists” realize they shouldn’t have abandoned internationalism? That maybe they should have fought Biden and not shaken hands with him during the genocide of the 2020’s?

Its maddening and frustrating yes, I’m telling you and you should already know, when we cross 2 and 2.5 the feedback loops etc are unstoppable. At that point its just survival or whatever your best way to cope with nihilism.

Palestine is the tip of the iceberg in terms of how much the world doesn’t give a shit, including China. For me the real test was already back during COVID too, there are millions dead and even more suffering Long COVID and who gives a shit? Business as usual 5 years later.

The doing crime here is dog whistle for being/associating with POC so even Gamers will say this unironicaly and then turn around “so anyway” and proceed to buy and play the game.

Actual TIL.

India was never even partially anti-western though. Specifically the Russian oil sanctions issue was more them being extremely selfish and opportunistic. They just saw the opportunity to buy very cheap Russian oil which boosted their own economy and then they refined and re-exported to Europe.

There is definitive proof of this as India has steadily reduced their Russian oil imports as Russia raised prices again and yet the sanctions remained.

Don’t take it from me, here.

An opportunistic, selfish, fascist piece of garbage government was not doing anti-western action just for price gauging Europeans in 2022 any more than I would call Exxon Mobil and Shell for doing the same.

I just think all those BRICS cheerleading analysis putting India as some undecided middle man was just terribly wrong in hindsight.

By the way, don’t look, India wasn’t the only one. There was never any sort of anti-western from these clowns.

The Botsman video here on telegram.

https://t.me/rwapodcast/69

random YT link

https://youtu.be/24m1U8sbKA4

They approached Bucha, the same major street with the wrecks etc and clearly say

“There are guys without blue armbands, can I shoot them?”

“Fuck yeah”

Daily reminder this is the party that praised Harry Kissinger on his death.

lol lmao even fucking Jackson Hinkle may as well be a literal baby eating a lolipop in comparison.

There is zero hope of this unless the US moves seriously towards Taiwan, otherwise I’d be very surprised, the ideological rot goes all the way to the top.

Nobody is forcing Xi to make speeches even 10 years ago about how much he loves “globalization” and how there is realy no alternative and we should not seek to blame the current system or replace it.

There are further left tendencies within the CPC but they do not hold power. Xi was wishing Trump good wishes on his admin on day 1 even though the armchair bullshitters in here(including myself) could tell from a mile away, years ago that this is going to happen, Trump was after all the one who started the first “trade war” too.

Ask yourself if they learned anything from the Trump trade war in 2018 and I’ll show you a picture of Xi smiling holding Biden’s hand in 2024.

Besides, as I said, there is no ideological stance that the CPC can push since all they repeat constantly is globalization is good and it is not to blame for the suffering, exploitation and wars. Its merely a bad side, not an inherent flaw or something that must be fought against and replaced.

Us vs them mentality needs to be more than complaining asking to see the manager(UN/WTO) and complain about how the US is realy bad but again after almost a decade repeating these views it will take something far more drastic to force them to change.

IDK I think you kind of picked a bad example here is a better one

Overall I think its a possible mistake to think China is unique to this criticism. Yes certainly Japan gets to benefit from delusional weebs biased expectations but what I’ve noticed is even after the “permanent tourist” boom led by some like AbroadinJapan and others, they’ve been quite open in talking about the issues and downsides, despite remaining overall positive, I mean why wouldn’t they? I agree Japan is not a bad place for a foreigner specially compared to post 2020 US/EU.

If you’re really familiar you’ll know this has always been controversial, there was this one guy in the early internet Arudou Debito yeah? He was infamous even 15 years ago and people could not accept his criticism. To be fair he is exactly the type of westerner loser that goes to Japan, gets shocked and then turns Japan hate into a career.

I think overall Americans and western are more racist and biased against Asians than not, the image of cool Japan from the 1990s is far gone and it is not hard to find open and often racist based criticism.

Quite simply genz and later are not growing up with the same Japanese cultural boom as millennials in the early 2000s and it shows. Japan is still popular but you can find pro-Chinese channels with just as many views and overall Asian racism is stronger now than ever.

Comparing mild personality cult of DPRK to South Korea and Samsung, almost the entire country one a damn 1920’s company town.