All I ever hear about Matrix is when they close another pedophile instance. I’m not saying everyone in Matrix is a pedophile, but every pedophile is on Matrix.

I have fond memories of Rebecca

It’s a very good book though

I did not know his first name was Keir, so the joke went over my head at first. Keir Starmer

Kind of. It’s not the hate per se, but it’s the raw emotion. I’m not very good with emotions, but this one sound very raw and aggressive. Which has an appeal.The best I can attribute it to is hate. Also, the fact that it’s “nazi punk” is influencing my choice of the term “hate”.

Nice! I mean… fuck off!

I don’t feel like I’m supporting them. I listen to the music on spotify, which notoriously doesn’t pay their creators. I’m also not influenced by the propaganda. I’m just there for the energy. Also I’m listening to it low-key. I’m not advertising it. Although I’m realising this post might be contrary to that statement.

Yeah, I’m affraid I’m on the wrong side of this distinction. Not ideologically, but the raw emotion and hate sounds very powerful. But it’s not just the nazi punks who make that kind of music. It’s just that they are easy to find. If you can recommend me something better, with the same energy. I’m happy to listen to that.

That’s an interesting take. I do agree that “No Doubt” is not ska. But than again, I’ve never thought that it might be ska.

I think “skinhead punk” is a very succinct, very separate subgenre of punk. But punk nonetheless.

I get why you deny it though, because punk is supposed to be the very political opposite of that. In that sense I do agree with you that skinhead punk is not punk at all.

Nah, pop punk is something completely different. You’re talking about shit like “greenday” and “sum41”, which are great in their field, but that hasn’t got very much I’m common with the raw punk energy I’m looking for here.

Lol, I believe you. You can’t be a “moderate nazi” if you took the effort to join a fucking nazi band. But I’m not always looking up the Wikipedia page of every band that passes some random playlist I listen to. So the message could very well fly over my head. That happens generally quite often to me, to be honest.

That’s just a matter of taste though, isn’t it? I generally don’t like black metal. And I haven’t a clue what “neofolk” is (might check that out later). I always appreciated punk, never really liked it, but skinhead punk does scratch the “punk itch” for me. It’s a well defined and well known sub-genre of punk, where other punk genres are less well-known, but maybe equally good. It’s basically a gate-way drug into other sub-genres of punk.

Oh right, that rings a bell. Makes sense that it’s black metal. But I don’t like black metal much. Honestly, I’m not sure how you can tell the difference between a “nazi black metal” band and a “my little pony rainbow black metal” band.

Well, you’ve got a point there, but the message isn’t all there is. Half of the time I can barely understand what they’re saying. You can’t call bullshit on that.

I’m not sure. I did not know there was a distinction. I really do not care about the nazi or racist part, but considering the downvotes, that doesn’t matter much. I mostly like the energy, maybe you can call it hate or a general feeling of the unheard. Also the bands that have this raw vocalist, sound pretty cool. (But I’m sure that’s not an exclusively skinhead thing.) But anyways, it’s a powerful emotion to base your music upon.

I’m curious what the distinction is. Maybe you can name some bands? In the palylist I’m currently listening, I’ve heard “B squadron” and “plan of attack”, which sound pretty nice, aesthetically.

One of what? People who like to step outside of the beaten track every once in a while? You think listening to hateful music makes me hateful? I’m guessing you, re also someone who thinks a mosh pit is a bad thing, don’t you?

I’ve heard Burzum, but that’s not nazi punk. There’s not enough hate for things that are not actually the problem, but you’re to dumb to realize. It’s basically just doom-metal.

Yeah I get that, but it’s a good gateway drug into actually appreciating punk. You start with “skinhead punk” because they kind of have this reputation that you’re curious about. And suddenly you find that you like punk.

Lol nice!! That’s the fucking spirit

Not at all. It’s all about emotion and hate is one of the most powerful emotions. That’s why social media is running so hot these days and I don’t agree with general social media either.