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  • Soup@lemmy.world
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    14 days ago

    Don’t forget that maintenance is super cheap AND most people, with only the most basic tools, can do the work in their living room or even just on a sidewalk. And if I don’t get it right and the brakes don’t work perfectly I probably won’t fuckin’ die.

    Hi, car owner here. I do all the work myself and it requires a fair bit of knowledge, expensive tools, space, and a childhood where I was never told I couldn’t do that work if I was thoughtful about it. That’s a high fuckin’ bar and requires a whole lot of privilege-oh there it is, too many people with privilege like to shit on those without and most of North America has dogshit for public transit or bike infrastructure and the “freedom of movement” with a car is all there but heavily artificial. Thanks auto industry and their lobbyists.

    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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      14 days ago

      I do my own bicycle and auto repair, and the bicycle is way easier. Maintenance is:

      • clean chain every so often (500 miles or start of the season) - get a chain cleaner tool thing ($10-20) and 50/50 Simple Green ($10 will last many years) and water, and then rinse, dry, and lube ($10 lasts years) - total process, 10 min?
      • replace chain - $20 or so, plus a tool for $10 or so; do every 2k miles or so
      • replace brake pads - $10-20
      • tires ($50 for a fancy fire) and tubes ($10) - replace tires when bald, tubes when flat (or patch them), and get some tire levers ($5-10) to make it easier

      For tools, you need a wrench set, and probably only like 2-3 sizes.

      My yearly maintenance costs for all of our bikes (1 adult, two kids) combined is about $50. If that. You could also go to your local bike shop instead for about double that.

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        14 days ago

        Also this is a healthy maintence regime. In my experience most cyclists do nothing on that list except swapping flat tubes and their bikes still ride just fine, if not merely sub-optimally.

        • TwanHE@lemmy.world
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          14 days ago

          Honestly have never done preventative maintenance on my bikes, only necessary repairs. Still thinking about repairing the shifter since I’ve been missing 1st gear for about 7-8? years now.

        • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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          14 days ago

          People over-state bicycle maintenance.

          $50 and a couple YouTube videos gets you everything you need for the first few years of maintenance. You can get fancy with a bike rack thing, but I never bothered and I’ve been fine.

          If you screw up, go to a bike shop and they’ll get you sorted for $50 or so, and they’ll probably teach you how to do it right if you ask nicely. If you have a bike coop, it might be free.

          • kbotc@lemmy.world
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            14 days ago

            Bike maintenance is a matter of what kind of equipment you’re riding, how far, what conditions, how much you weigh and how strong you are. When I was putting 40 miles a day commuting, my cheap bike needed maintenance about once every 2-4 weeks depending on the weather and taught me that I fucking hate cleaning and repacking my bottom bracket.

            The proliferation of Ebike caliber equipment changed a lot at least for durability and comfort.

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                13 days ago

                Salted roads during the winter, dusty conditions in the summer. The salted roads when it’s too cold to rinse the bike would usually work its way in and the bearings would be creaking before spring.

                • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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                  12 days ago

                  Ew.

                  We only get snow about every other week here, and it’s rarely so cold that I can’t run a hose to rinse it off. I’m glad I haven’t had to deal with that nonsense.

  • RejZoR@lemmy.ml
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    14 days ago

    Rain, ice and severe cold are a removed. I like bicycles, but driving to work in a heated car looking at that poor cyclist riding somewhere at 6 in the morning at -6°C, sorry, no, I’m gonna go with a car.

      • Pacattack57@lemmy.world
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        14 days ago

        Being cheap is the entire benefit. Everything else is just a plus. If you lose the cost it’s not worth it at that point.

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          3 days ago

          It’s still a lot cheaper than a car, and quite a bit faster than a regular bike, but it’s expensive enough you care if it’s stolen.

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            3 days ago

            I completely understand that but they are routinely damaged or stolen for shits and giggles. Cars have the benefit that a person with some strong scissors cant come steal your car, unless you’re driving a 1998 Honda accord.

    • Nfamwap@lemmy.world
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      14 days ago

      I get the sentiment, but a raincoat isn’t enough on its own. Sure, if you’ve got a 5 minute commute, you can get there quickly and spend minimal time in the rain.

      A 20 minute commute in the pissing rain and you will be arriving soaked from head to toe. Not ideal for most. Yeh if you can shower at work then great, but then you’ve still got wet clothes you need to dry.

      I’m very lucky that I have a 5 minute ride to work, all downhill, so unless the weather is biblical, I don’t really have an excuse for taking the car.