• threeganzi@sh.itjust.works
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          5 days ago

          Your point hasn’t been proven. OPs point was that Putin promises can’t be trusted. And without US putting force behind that promise, Ukraine is wise to be worried about such a deal.

          Just because one alternative realized doesn’t mean there weren’t other options, better or worse.

          Edit: plus, a peace deal is far from done, regardless which side you root for.

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          History teaches us that Russia cease fire agreements mean that fewer die immediately but that lasts a far shorter time than you hope for. In the end, even more people die than before when Russia resumes their aggression.

          This is not a prediction or an opinion. That are literally dozens of historical events to draw this information from.

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            According to what you’re saying, the only solution is NATO troops fighting in Ukraine because we cannot trust Russia in any way, shape or form.

            When are you willing to enroll to go to the front?

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              6 days ago

              You have textbook RT talking points. It’s so fucking obvious you’re a russian asset at the very keast

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                6 days ago

                Yeah bro, everyone who doesn’t have your specific world view is a russian asset. What, are you 12?

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                  6 days ago

                  No. People who repeat Kremlin talking points are Russian bots. I’m still waiting for your solution. That’s more evidence to you bottyness. You’re just trying to stir the pot while pretending to care

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                    6 days ago

                    The solution is peace. But you and our leaders don’t want it because it means compromise and it means that Putin also gets something (surprise, that’s how peace works ✨)

                    Call me names all you want, it doesn’t make your argument better, it just makes you look like an infant.

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      7 days ago

      Give Ukraine everything they need to kick the Russians off their soil. Tomahawks, F35s, a million artillery shells a week, etc… lift all usage restrictions with the exception of civilian targets and infrastructure. Once every square inch of Ukraine is back in Ukrainian hands full NATO membership and a Marshall like recovery plan.

      Or assassinate Putin. As long as Putin lives Ukraine is under threat.

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        6 days ago

        That’s unsustainable, brainless and unrealistic, who is going to pay and fight if the war continues for 5 more years, what about 10 more years?

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          Russia is importing North Koreans to fight. You think if Ukraine gets unlimited weapons the war will last 5 more years? What day of the 3 day invasion are we on now?

          The only reason the war has lasted this long is because of the drip feeding of weapons. which was probably a ploy to extend the war and make defense contractors more rich. So yeah, end it quickly by giving Ukraine what it needs to win.

          So, what’s your "totally realistic"TM solution?