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      It’s not what every snap user wants. It’s just that garbage products are calorie dense and need little to no preparation, and those things absolutely matter when working several jobs or being homeless and convincing someone to let you use their address because a permanent address is necessary.

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        More calories per dollar for things like rice beans pasta. It’s a bit more complicated than that.

        Convenience is king when you are constantly burned out and sleep deprived and “just need something good enough and easy”

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          Fucking hell, have you ever tried to live on rice and beans? You need half a dozen spices and salt just to make it taste like not sadness, plus prep time, prep space, prep bowls and pots, and then you need to wash everything. Compared with a frozen meal that cooks in the microwave and a disposable tray for serving, there’s really no contest. A “rice and beans” lifestyle requires a stay-at-home partner who soaks beans and washes dishes.

          It’s a great frugal tip to stretch your grocery dollars, but if you’re poor, it’s not a moral failing to go with a cheap frozen meal.

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            I wish more people understood this. Beans are so good, but only if you can devote hours to them.

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              It’s just one of the myriad of recommendations people make because they don’t understand the problem. People think that the simple trick that worked for them would solve similar problems for everyone. Worse, they get angry when their advice is met with resistance. It’s like Napoleon feeding the alpacas.

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              I know this outside of the scope of the discussion, but you can cook dried beans in a instant pot in about an hour.

              Obviously that’s still going to be a struggle for anyone where time/space/equipment are a huge factor. But it’s a big difference from letting them soak overnight.

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                Insta pot can help, but I don’t feel it add much value in the overall cook. Sautéing, caramelizing, deglazing, etc. takes time that no home-use kitchen gadget is going to help with. Soaking beans overnight is not the problem, as much as actual time it takes to make a meal. Planning, purchasing ingredients, prepping, cooking, cleaning…insta-pot is not worth the hype iykyk

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            You can make a relatively tasty rice with beans with canned beans and bit of salt in 10 minutes - if you are feeling fancy adding parsley will even move it to tasting good. I’m starting to suspect all the corn syrup is damaging american’s taste buds beyond repair.

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              Two things, canned beans and instant rice cost more than dry bulk rice and beans. And your recipe for “salt and parsley instant rice and canned beans” sounds like it’s going to taste like sadness.

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            1 can beans. 1 can tomatos. pour in bowl. microwave. add garlic powder, chili powder, pepper, cayenne. Eat.

            I have eaten this for months before. It is cheap, convenient, healthy, and tasty.

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            but if you’re poor, it’s not a moral failing to go with a cheap frozen meal.

            Agreed. HOWEVER, we should be educating people and coming up with new ways to eat cheap, quick, and healthy.

            Use your ovens, folks. Food like bacon and bratwurst turn out great in the oven and you don’t have to babysit them, either.

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            I lived on easy hamburger helper. Everything is in the package, just cook some ground beef in a pan and mix the rest of the stuff in.

            It’s not that hard, guys. You don’t need to eat candy to survive

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              That shit is full of sodium and really bad for you. Once they target sugar, what do you suppose is next?

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                Sodium is at least required for you to live. You can have 0 grams of sugar and be perfectly healthy

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                  Sure, but if you eat a balanced diet of fresh food, you’ll get all the sodium you need. Nobody needs the sodium in an instant meal.

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                    Not everyone eats balanced meals. Guess what is in a balanced meal? Sodium. You need it.

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                sodium isn’t bad for you unless you are eating ungodly amounts. Typically if you get too much of an electrolyte, you just piss it out.

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              you really shouldnt be giving advice when your comments include, not paying for peoples food because you think they are only buying sugary foods. yet your here eating junk food.

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                I’m saying don’t pay for the sugary food, pay for the slightly more healthy food

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          I’d also like to see how he addresses food deserts. I already saw an article suggesting 18-65 are going to lose benefits.

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          You’re assuming that people have the time and space to prep rice, beans and pasta. Not everyone does.

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          IDC about soda, although it’s probably less harmful than water in certain areas.

          Apples. Food deserts. I’ve never seen an apple at any of the dollar stores.

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      Next it will no sugary cereal, just oats and gruel for the peasantry.

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        I haven’t had sugar cereal in a decade. I don’t know how you could ever prefer them over oat flakes

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            That’s another win for the oat flakes, they don’t drive your blood sugar too high, but will keep it up for very long (no carb crash), plus they contain a load of micronutrients. Even their protein percentage is quite high - higher than chickpeas for example.

            Long story short, I don’t understand why people here are mad that the US government will no longer subsidize unhealthy and overpriced garbage. I know this probably isn’t where it’s going to stop, but at least this particular instance makes sense I guess.

            I’m not against did stamps being able to buy sweets. The issue I have is with a lot of breakfast cereals is that they too are in fact sweets, but people see them as a proper meal. They’re not. Occasional sweets are fine. Regularly eating a full meal consisting only of sweets is not.