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plinky [he/him]@hexbear.net to El Chisme@hexbear.netEnglish · 5 days ago

The one good german

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The one good german

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plinky [he/him]@hexbear.net to El Chisme@hexbear.netEnglish · 5 days ago
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  • Carl [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    I don’t know much about the Red Army Faction so I looked it up and

    The RAF has been held responsible for 34 deaths, including industrialist Hanns Martin Schleyer, the Dresdner Bank head Jürgen Ponto, federal prosecutor Siegfried Buback, police officers, American servicemen stationed in Germany

    they sound pretty great ngl.

    • plinky [he/him]@hexbear.netOP
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      von der leyen was hiding from them in london lmao, the greatest miss after thatcher (although as a relative nobody, so it wouldn’t be that pog)

    • Belly_Beanis [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      Yah IIRC they were students and young adults who started their org after WWII so they could get revenge on Germans who escaped punishment for their crimes. Especially people who participated in the Holocaust that served light prison sentences or none at all in exchange for research/testifying against someone higher up.

      What got them into trouble was when they kidnapped some kids and started killing people who were too young to have done anything during the war. People were already iffy on the use of violence, but it was understandable because a lot of German young people were upset how their relatives helped the nazis. When you start doing too much adventurism and bystanders get harmed, that’s when the public no longer wants to tolerate bombings.

    • 30_to_50_Feral_PAWGs [she/her]@hexbear.net
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      The book that the movie Die Hard is based on had an RAF cell as its antagonists. When they adapted it to a screenplay, they had to change them to thieves because at the time, killing Nazi-hunters was a “bad look.”*

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      Just kidding, it’s because Americans were too oblivious to eastern European politics to understand nuance, and they didn’t want to bog down the pace of the story explaining that the Nazis didn’t magically disappear because we did a heckin’ D-Day-erino or that Germany was kinda fucked up as a result of it, and so forth.

      Besides, it was a Christmas movie. You don’t want it to be sad, do you?

  • Alaskaball [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    Plenty of good germans out there. Just got to look for the Red ones.

    • plinky [he/him]@hexbear.netOP
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      less than 2 million if we generously split die linke in half, who continue to glaze their nazi pals in middle east as a whole

      • Sinisterium [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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        Most of the german left is worse on palestine than some right wingers and it pains me to say so.

        I have found far more sympathy for the Palestinian cause with AFD voting working class boomers than with non-muslim (though a lot of germans of turkish & kurdish descent also don’t particularly care about “arabs) left-wingers in germany.

        • plinky [he/him]@hexbear.netOP
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          boomers in the east? maybe some residual honecker-interesting

          • Sinisterium [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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            South, so like hardcore mode. But in the east there are some nostalgic older people as well, who reject state narratives on principle.

        • Gucci_Minh [he/him]@hexbear.net
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          Antideutsche brainworms is really something.

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            Not just, but they are the loudest.

          • SockOlm [she/her]@hexbear.net
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            anti deusch more like ultra deusch

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    They are the RAF, of course they would be pro-Palestinian. One of the “major justifications” for pro-zionism in german was that Germany’s 9/11 equivalent was done by the PLA PLO to free imprisoned RAF members. It scared the shit out of the fash back in the day, because they lugi-ed several “ex” nazi capitalists.

    The period was called the german autumn.

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      Germany’s 9/11 equivalent was done by the PLA

      germany-cool 9/11 qin-shi-huangdi-fireball PRC-emblem

      • Sinisterium [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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        Lol noticed my mistake. The chinese emperor dude had a point though.

  • vovchik_ilich [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Unfathomably based

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    There was also a former RAF guy who became a neo nazi too lol

    • Sinisterium [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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      A lot became greens lol. Though that was more the Revolutionary Cells than the RAF.

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      I think it was their lawyer

  • buh [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    waow-based

  • Boynomoder [she/her, pup/pup's]@hexbear.net
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    How old is she?

    • Sinisterium [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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      Daniela Klette is 66

      • Boynomoder [she/her, pup/pup's]@hexbear.net
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        Oh I thought it was like a WW2 thing.

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          RAF was founded after the war to go after nazis who escaped punishment but were safe in Germany because they got pardoned or served light sentences (compared to SS that fled to South America and got got by Mossad, communists, or whoever).

        • Sinisterium [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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          She isnt that old. Most WW2 survivors are 90+. This was from Germany’s hippie era.

    • plinky [he/him]@hexbear.netOP
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      around 65-70? meow-floppy

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    rat-salute

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