I do not disagree with literally anything you’ve said here, so I’m not sure why you’re presenting it as such.
Nor am I 'hand wave’ing the research, I’m reading it and seeing what it actually says, like you also have. What the cited research definitively does not claim (or even imply) is “Dangerously high levels of arsenic and cadmium found in samples of store-bought rice from more than 100 different brands purchased in the US.”.
You said there is nothing stating arsenic is dangerous, which is false. No amount of heavy metal exposure is safe. These products contain heavy metals, including cadmium. The reason no amount is safe is because it accumulates in the body and can’t be removed, and it accumulates from a variety of sources both known and unknown. It is especially dangerous for children, but adults also get heavy metal poisoning. You presented this as if everything is fine, nothing to see here and that isn’t the case.
You also said the majority leaches into water which is thrown away, which is false.
You said there is nothing stating arsenic is dangerous, which is false.
No, I 100% didn’t say that.
You presented this as if everything is fine, nothing to see here
I literally said up front that reducing heavy metal intake is a good and ideal thing to do.
You also said the majority leaches into water which is thrown away, which is false.
I’ll absolutely admit I failed to clarify this applies only to certain common cooking methods. Still, the underlying point is still valid - the methodology did not account for this seemingly significant factor.
We still seem to entirely agree. Perhaps depending a bit on your definition of ‘safe’. It might just be I’m not communicating my points well - so apologies if that’s down to me.
There is no study to suggest 129 ppb of Arsenic is dangerous.
Sorry but I don’t really see how this quote of yours is much different from what I paraphrased.
You did say reducing is good but that was one line couched in a lot of language implying that this article should be disregarded and you said that rice is fine and that heavy metals in rice is normal. While it is true that heavy metals can be found in foods sometimes, I don’t think implying that this study should be disregarded is ideal, and if you didn’t mean to imply that, it did come off that way to me.
I’ll absolutely admit I failed to clarify this applies only to certain common cooking methods. Still, the underlying point is still valid - the methodology did not account for this seemingly significant factor.
They do talk about this and encourage people to do it, but I really don’t think it is a common cooking method to use 6-10 cups of water per cup of rice and dump the water out. I come from a rice eating culture and married into a different one, I’ve worked in restaurants, I’ve never heard of anyone doing this. It is certainly not a “common cooking method.”
I’m not trying to be combative or anything, I just saw your comment as the only one and got a totally different read from the piece and didn’t want the default comment people read to be “nothing to see here folks,” which is what it looked like to me. I know too many kids and adults who have gotten heavy metal poisoning, among the myriad other unnecessary and avoidable health risks people face, to see that and not offer another perspective
I do not disagree with literally anything you’ve said here, so I’m not sure why you’re presenting it as such.
Nor am I 'hand wave’ing the research, I’m reading it and seeing what it actually says, like you also have. What the cited research definitively does not claim (or even imply) is “Dangerously high levels of arsenic and cadmium found in samples of store-bought rice from more than 100 different brands purchased in the US.”.
You said there is nothing stating arsenic is dangerous, which is false. No amount of heavy metal exposure is safe. These products contain heavy metals, including cadmium. The reason no amount is safe is because it accumulates in the body and can’t be removed, and it accumulates from a variety of sources both known and unknown. It is especially dangerous for children, but adults also get heavy metal poisoning. You presented this as if everything is fine, nothing to see here and that isn’t the case. You also said the majority leaches into water which is thrown away, which is false.
No, I 100% didn’t say that.
I literally said up front that reducing heavy metal intake is a good and ideal thing to do.
I’ll absolutely admit I failed to clarify this applies only to certain common cooking methods. Still, the underlying point is still valid - the methodology did not account for this seemingly significant factor.
We still seem to entirely agree. Perhaps depending a bit on your definition of ‘safe’. It might just be I’m not communicating my points well - so apologies if that’s down to me.
Sorry but I don’t really see how this quote of yours is much different from what I paraphrased.
You did say reducing is good but that was one line couched in a lot of language implying that this article should be disregarded and you said that rice is fine and that heavy metals in rice is normal. While it is true that heavy metals can be found in foods sometimes, I don’t think implying that this study should be disregarded is ideal, and if you didn’t mean to imply that, it did come off that way to me.
They do talk about this and encourage people to do it, but I really don’t think it is a common cooking method to use 6-10 cups of water per cup of rice and dump the water out. I come from a rice eating culture and married into a different one, I’ve worked in restaurants, I’ve never heard of anyone doing this. It is certainly not a “common cooking method.”
I’m not trying to be combative or anything, I just saw your comment as the only one and got a totally different read from the piece and didn’t want the default comment people read to be “nothing to see here folks,” which is what it looked like to me. I know too many kids and adults who have gotten heavy metal poisoning, among the myriad other unnecessary and avoidable health risks people face, to see that and not offer another perspective