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Every time I see a picture of North Korea I’m left stunned by how much nicer the landscape is to look at without advertising and sleaze covering every corner of the environment.
Funnily enough that’s actually one of the reasons so many people feel like there’s something off in all the photos, or that it’s all fake. Literally no context for what an industrial society without need for constant advertisement looks like.
It’s kind of scary realizing how conditioned we are to accept constant the noise of advertising
“place with many screens showing constant advertisements” describes multiple popular tourism locations
Where I live, there’s a lot of advertising, but nowhere near as bad as in the US. When I first visited the US, beyond trips to see Dad’s brother who lives there, during which we were not there long and all of the children were simply left in the home with some of the adults while others went out, I was astounded at the sheer amount of advertising. I’d never seen giant billboards on the sides of the highway before! Streetside billboards, sure. But not on a highway!
It’s kind of funny because people remark on there being heavy-handed propaganda everywhere, and they are kind of correct, but it’s way less than the corporate advertising you see in the West and actually has an argument for mostly being for the public good.
If I could replace all corporate propaganda for propaganda that was reminding you to stay healthy and contribute to your community, I’d be happy
“Please don’t litter”
“You cannot drive while drunk”"Please stop bringing electric scooters into elevators, here’s 10 minutes of security cam footage of them exploding "
This, absolutely. Hell, replace it with the kind of stereotypical commie propaganda the West accuses socialist states of plastering everywhere, that’d still be nicer than corporate slop.
It feels like the moment a leafblower I’d stopped noticing outside suddenly turns off
every week 20,000 people will be forced to lounge at gunpoint! in the evenings they will be brutally entertained!The lazy river… Of Death!
I hope they built this with the money they stole from crypto bros
Do they think North Koreans just go to work and then come home and stare at the wall the rest of the day?
No, silly, they think the people stare at the government mandated photo of the Kim family on their wall
They literally have to go to the state barber every day to get the Kim haircut
But Doctor, I am the barber
And then be immediately killed for having the Kim haircut
Unironically yes
No, they just aren’t rendered anymore, as soon as they leave the main character’s view.
Don’t be ridiculous. The North Koreans aren’t allowed to stop working. The military police force citizens to work 24/7, and they don’t even get breaks to eat. The guards just attach feedbags full of dead rats and blades of grass to the workers’ faces so they can keep going.
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People eat in the DPRK, the Arduous March was 3 decades ago. It’s similar to Cuba, or even better now due to having trading partners on its door in Russia and China.
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That source is extremely biased:
From their about page " Our Mission By revealing the truth, HRNK is applying pressure not only to the totalitarian regime of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea but the international community at large to effect real change. HRNK’s ultimate goal is to close North Korean gulags, open the borders so citizens can leave the country, and provide access to information throughout North Korea, including breaking the information blockade and preventing widespread access to media and news. We aim to bring about real and substantial change to the policies that obstruct the human rights of every North Korean citizen. "
In addition, the sourcing from the document you linked are south korean government agencies, rfa, and other USAID linked think tanks. Do you think that South Korea and the United States has a vested, material interest in disseminating propaganda about a country so heavily bombed that they inflicted a genocide?
common knowledge
oh you sweet summer child
What do you mean??? I saw it in a dream!!
Yes, western-centric sources indeed over-represent real problems in the DPRK and under-represent their achievements. Again, they seem to be doing about as well as Cuba, maybe a bit better, and considering the brutal sanctions on each that’s quite the feat.
Your “common knowledge” is just the western viewpoint that clings to the Arduous March and stories, both real and fake, of defectors raised during that era.
Plus, making a joke about a country having food insecurity, regardless of validity, is monstrous behavior. Even if you were correct, you’d still be a shitty person for that alone.
Lmao, I’m sure the Bush School did a very serious and thorough investigation
Research into North Korea will always lack the exact data that would allow for complete certainty.
Very serious
Sources seem to conclude
So show one
Do North Koreans not eat or something?
They use photosynthesis like the old guy in MGS3
Think we could get a group rate if we all agreed to go together?
Bit idea: scheduling the Hexbear meet up in the DPRK and having the hotel list it as the “turbo lib convention.”
Tbh, a huge commie meetup where a bunch of different leftist groups from all over the world are all converging in one place, and telling the country involved’s government and the hotel/conference center we were something incredibly lame and apolitical or obviously liberal, would be pretty funny.
I would absolutely do a Hexbear group trip if it was happening.
Hopefully we could organise something way better than when Tumblr tried to do a convention, lol.
I have all sorts of diseases, we would be quarantined
You know it
But there’s no posh white tourists.
GHOST BEACH CITIES
Just like China’s “ghost cities” which are now not ghost cities they’re going to pretend this is all some spooky stupid shit instead of acknowledging that they’re being constructed as part of long term plans and expectations in the future.
The biggest concern the west has about tourism in dprk however is that it undermines the idea it is “closed” and that people know nothing about what is going on there.
Boy boy should visit
North Korea gets a fair amount of tourists, just near-zero from America because America banned travel there for its citizens. If the WPK is saying it’s a city for tourism and that’s not just some made up term like the “propaganda city” is, it will probably be mostly tourists, diplomats, and domestic bureaucrats, and capitalists rather than common citizens, but I suppose we don’t know and there’s a good chance they’ll be doing some sort of subsidy thing for at least part of it.
Being banned isn’t a problem; the DPRK don’t stamp your passport specifically so people don’t get problems when they go back home.
Good on the DPRK for that, but it seems like a serious problem still. I think you need to report on something like that and if the state found out that you lied during customs or whatever, that’s an actual crime. Maybe if you plan on never setting foot in the US again it’s fine, but that’s a more specific circumstance.
So basically if you’re from the States you have to use some sort of layover? Can you even buy tickets to there on US websites?
Basically you go to China and book a ticket there
I heard it’s the same deal for US citizens visiting Cuba except with Mexico
It really is incredible what a difference it can make being North Korea, situated next to China and Russia, compared to Cuba with it being situated next to the US. Cuba would probably look more like this as well if it wasn’t located where it is.
Cuba has resorts. It’s one of the most popular vacation destinations for people from Canada, if I remember correctly.
Yes, but there are also power outages and most things are not in good condition. Cuba is still heavily dependent on Mexico, the Pink Tide/Liberal/Conservative friendly governments, China and some European states.
It is absolutely popular. I know people who’ve gone. They hate “The Commies”, and refuse to support AES states in any way, directly or indirectly, but they’ve visited resorts in Cuba.
Liberal cognitive dissonance is one hell of a thing.
I guess you could compare it to Venezuela and Nicaragua. Even under heavy sanctions, Venezuela still have huge shopping malls and resorts, and things have improved since Brazil and Colombia elected Socdems.
But also at what price?
Probably pretty reasonable. I’d be down to go if I coudl afford to.
Not whitey lol
I’m sorry but
this is obviously fake.Everyone knows North Korea doesn’t get the sun. It is always perpetually overcast to give the nation a doom and gloom look to it. Everyone knows the people of North Korea haven’t ever experienced happiness and if they do they are taken by a commissar of emotional regulation and given 5 minutes to control their outbursts before they are killed and sent to work in a gulag.
This but it’s England
And Russians most likely
As far as i know, DPRK is still pretty locked down as far as foreign visitors are concerned. From what Young Pioneer Tours have learned, the resort is for domestic tourism only.
