Dude, your theory is that the current rise of right wing populism in Germany is because we weren’t killing enough people? Fr, that’s your take?
Who is in charge of doing the killing then? The death penalty isn’t french revolution style, you want right leaning states and judges around the globe to have the responsibility to decide who lives or dies? Thank you very much, I’ll pass.
Who’s the people? Because an individual or a group of people killing someone is something different than a formal death penalty handed out by the state, of all things.
I argue against giving the state (any state) and the courts power to decide who lives and who dies. Because ultimately, I don’t trust the people on top to make that choice. Beside individual examples of killings that you find justified, do you have any example for a country that uses the death penalty exactly the “right” way? Where no one innocent is killed, where there are no moral grey areas, no ways to just change some laws and misuse the whole concept to “eradicate the gays” or some shit? Because I don’t and I sure as hell wouldn’t look to the US for advice.
I’m from Germany, yes. The Nazi problem wasn’t solved simply by killing the top, nor does it grow right now because we stopped killing in the 50s. There were a lot of fundamental changes to be done at the bottom, a lot of them only just starting in the late 60s, far after the death penalty. And even then, a lot of people went to prison, some 90-somethings only in recent years.
Thats…not what happened. Please look at how “Entnazifizierung” actually worked and also rethink if you’re actually antifascist or just deeply authoritarian if that’s your preferred solution.
The whole point of fascism is that almost anyone could become one under the wrong circumstances.
Creating a terror state won’t help you. You’re not erasing ideologies by erasing people, unless you want to lean completely into censorship and mass murder on a bigger scale. At that point, you’d have to fight leftists as well, since a lot wouldn’t want a state to hold the power to do all that.
That’s quite different from Luigi killing a CEO or some random person punching a Nazi.
Dude, your theory is that the current rise of right wing populism in Germany is because we weren’t killing enough people? Fr, that’s your take?
Who is in charge of doing the killing then? The death penalty isn’t french revolution style, you want right leaning states and judges around the globe to have the responsibility to decide who lives or dies? Thank you very much, I’ll pass.
Yes. The more fascist you allow to live, the worst the problem becomes. Come on, you’re from Germany… You should literally know this.
We the people.
Why can’t it be? It was like that with Sadaam…
Who’s the people? Because an individual or a group of people killing someone is something different than a formal death penalty handed out by the state, of all things.
I argue against giving the state (any state) and the courts power to decide who lives and who dies. Because ultimately, I don’t trust the people on top to make that choice. Beside individual examples of killings that you find justified, do you have any example for a country that uses the death penalty exactly the “right” way? Where no one innocent is killed, where there are no moral grey areas, no ways to just change some laws and misuse the whole concept to “eradicate the gays” or some shit? Because I don’t and I sure as hell wouldn’t look to the US for advice.
I’m from Germany, yes. The Nazi problem wasn’t solved simply by killing the top, nor does it grow right now because we stopped killing in the 50s. There were a lot of fundamental changes to be done at the bottom, a lot of them only just starting in the late 60s, far after the death penalty. And even then, a lot of people went to prison, some 90-somethings only in recent years.
No, it’s not solved just by killing to top. Its solved by killing every fascist.
Fascism is like weeds… you need to kill every weed, or it just comes back.
Thats…not what happened. Please look at how “Entnazifizierung” actually worked and also rethink if you’re actually antifascist or just deeply authoritarian if that’s your preferred solution.
The whole point of fascism is that almost anyone could become one under the wrong circumstances.
Creating a terror state won’t help you. You’re not erasing ideologies by erasing people, unless you want to lean completely into censorship and mass murder on a bigger scale. At that point, you’d have to fight leftists as well, since a lot wouldn’t want a state to hold the power to do all that.
That’s quite different from Luigi killing a CEO or some random person punching a Nazi.