I mean since the advent of SSDs I’ve not found the boot times of computers to be all that slow and I typically quite like coming back to a clean desktop on a new day rather than having junk from yesterday being thrown at me.
Even if the boot time is fast, you lose a lot of the program states. Not only it takes extra time to load those applications, it’s also a fair amount of effort to put everything back where it should be.
If it was necessary to shut computers down, no problem, it’s not too much time and effort. But there’s normally no need to shut computers down, it’s just wasted time with no benefits (usually).
For me the only thing I needed to “put back where it should be” was my VPN. Bu I switched to wireguard from Eddie, so now I don’t need to adjust anything on startup
Exactly. Plus live kernel updates. There is really no reason to reboot. Occasionally I have to shutdown to unplug everything and rearrange my office. Once or twice a year, that’s good enough.
yeah if ur working on something you should sleep the computer, but if you’re working with, like, one app, or if youre not working on anything, i see no reason not to shutdown ur pc
I was mostly talking about stationary computers, but even in case of a laptop (unless it runs Windows which has terrible sleep management) the benefits of starting your work immediately once you open the lid outweighs the cons of losing a couple percent of battery overnight.
two apps? where do you work that you only have two apps open? just on my home pc right now I have 21 programs open, of course that includes things that autostartup, but those things take time to startup. stuff like dropbox can take several minutes until it stops thrashing your cpu. On my work computer I have even more. Just in basic programs to do my job that’s at minimum 8 programs. That doesn’t include auto startup apps, or other apps I use. That’s just basics required by my job. Several of them are IDEs which take several minutes to start, and then when they do start you have to open up the project, indexing happens. All told, the computer can start in 20 seconds, but getting to a working desktop state is about 10 minutes.
Have you seen how fast computers turn on these days (from complete shutdowns)? It’s 2-3 seconds (if hibernation is completely off). Barely an inconvenience - specially not one worth risking the pc turning on by itself on random times.
Why would you? Sleep uses so little power and the resume is instant.
If it wasn’t for S0 standby being such a piece of shit I’d never shutdown my computer unless it was for an update or hardware maintenance.
I mean since the advent of SSDs I’ve not found the boot times of computers to be all that slow and I typically quite like coming back to a clean desktop on a new day rather than having junk from yesterday being thrown at me.
Even if the boot time is fast, you lose a lot of the program states. Not only it takes extra time to load those applications, it’s also a fair amount of effort to put everything back where it should be.
If it was necessary to shut computers down, no problem, it’s not too much time and effort. But there’s normally no need to shut computers down, it’s just wasted time with no benefits (usually).
For me the only thing I needed to “put back where it should be” was my VPN. Bu I switched to wireguard from Eddie, so now I don’t need to adjust anything on startup
Exactly. Plus live kernel updates. There is really no reason to reboot. Occasionally I have to shutdown to unplug everything and rearrange my office. Once or twice a year, that’s good enough.
yeah if ur working on something you should sleep the computer, but if you’re working with, like, one app, or if youre not working on anything, i see no reason not to shutdown ur pc
Even if it’s only one app, what is the purpose? To save on electricity that powers RAM?
Well yes why not save that battery power
I was mostly talking about stationary computers, but even in case of a laptop (unless it runs Windows which has terrible sleep management) the benefits of starting your work immediately once you open the lid outweighs the cons of losing a couple percent of battery overnight.
Why would you loose that couple percent of battery if boot time is fast and only have two apps for the work
two apps? where do you work that you only have two apps open? just on my home pc right now I have 21 programs open, of course that includes things that autostartup, but those things take time to startup. stuff like dropbox can take several minutes until it stops thrashing your cpu. On my work computer I have even more. Just in basic programs to do my job that’s at minimum 8 programs. That doesn’t include auto startup apps, or other apps I use. That’s just basics required by my job. Several of them are IDEs which take several minutes to start, and then when they do start you have to open up the project, indexing happens. All told, the computer can start in 20 seconds, but getting to a working desktop state is about 10 minutes.
See I want all the junk from yesterday.
Have you seen how fast computers turn on these days (from complete shutdowns)? It’s 2-3 seconds (if hibernation is completely off). Barely an inconvenience - specially not one worth risking the pc turning on by itself on random times.