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    This is the case for Ukraine and is imperialism because of the mineral deal stuff, but other foreign aid Trump cut seems to be more of a case of “fuck you I got mine” rather than trying to get exert control over anyone.

    His administration is quite nakedly making demands of other countries as part of ‘negotiating’ tariffs.

    Plenty, but AFAIK America has little interest in most of them.

    I can think of very few countries that America has ‘little interest’ in, and much of our ‘lack’ of interest in genocidal states is because that was, in the post-Cold War environment, bad PR.

    We now have a regime that doesn’t care about PR. In fact, bad PR is a good thing to their power base, because it ‘owns the libs’.

    Certainly, the fact that I pointed out “can offer genocidal states” necessarily, for that matter, implies that the states I’m talking about do not currently receive full US support. Do you think there’s anyone Trump wouldn’t support to have another country’s leader slobbering on his limp knob and calling him “Sir, Mr. Trump”, with tears in his eyes?

    The military intervention in Libya was separate from the war on terror to my knowledge, while the one in Somalia had the textbook war on terror motivation of “counterterrorism”.

    And you think the War on Terror in Somalia compares to how bad the Cold War was… how? Morality or intensity, I’ll accept either justification?

    Since that is the context in which your list was made and which I expressed incredulity at Somalia’s inclusion?

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      His administration is quite nakedly making demands of other countries as part of ‘negotiating’ tariffs.

      Are we talking about tariffs or foreign aid right now? The tariff-based negotiations are pretty nakedly imperialist, I’ll concede that. Cutting non-Ukraine foreign aid is not.

      Do you think there’s anyone Trump wouldn’t support to have another country’s leader slobbering on his limp knob and calling him “Sir, Mr. Trump”, with tears in his eyes?

      That’s… fair enough??? Part of me doesn’t want to believe it’ll go quite that easily, but you never know with these people.

      And you think the War on Terror in Somalia compares to how bad the Cold War was… how? Morality or intensity, I’ll accept either justification?

      I mean Ethiopia, backed by the US, went in and restarted an almost 20 years old civil war, causing the death of about a hundred thousand people and displacing a million (between 2006 and 2009, I can’t find numbers for post-2009 but it can’t be good). It doesn’t obviously measure up to the cold war on its own, but it’s another horrible thing caused by the war on terror.

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        Are we talking about tariffs or foreign aid right now? The tariff-based negotiations are pretty nakedly imperialist, I’ll concede that. Cutting non-Ukraine foreign aid is not.

        Considering that the intention in both cases is to get other actors to lick Trump’s boots, what’s the difference?

        I mean Ethiopia, backed by the US, went in and restarted an almost 20 years old civil war, causing the death of about a hundred thousand people and displacing a million (between 2006 and 2009, I can’t find numbers for post-2009 but it can’t be good). It doesn’t obviously measure up to the cold war on its own, but it’s another horrible thing caused by the war on terror.

        Fighting had never stopped. The idea that Ethiopia restarted the civil war is not even vaguely close to what happened.