• jaemo@sh.itjust.works
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    2 months ago

    Hey does Pepperidge farms remember all the fucking morons on Lemmy urging not to vote for Harris because she was allegedly complicit in genocide? I sure as shit do.

    Know what’s gonna be objectively worse, 100% regardless of the veracity those allegations? The reality that they helped forge instead.

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      2 months ago

      The point was to pressure the Dems into giving up on genocide. You wanna talk about “pepperidge farm remembers”, I got one for ya

      Remember when the Dems thought they could win while actively telling people who were anti genocide to go fuck themselves?

      Hey, what’s weirder? Not voting for someone committing genocide, or being unwilling to stop committing a genocide even if it costs you the election?

      How does it feel that the only thing that Harris had to do was say “I will stop weapons to Israel” and she would of won?

      You can’t keep blaming the voters when the strategy was at fault. They knew they would lose votes. They thought they could court the centrists and liberal Republicans to make up for it. They were so fucking wrong. And somehow it’s not their own fault for having the worst campaign strategy known to man.

      Like, Christ. Y’all ain’t ever gonna stop trying to blame leftists. You’ll be up against the wall with leftists fighting for your life and you’ll still be like “can’t believe you didn’t vote Harris”. I can’t believe Harris threw away the election over the continued genocide of palastinians. That’s fucking crazy. Is that not crazy to you? You don’t find it fucking insane that the Dems would rather a fascist state than stop actively committing a genocide? Cause that’s the fucking Gambit they ran and look where we are.

      Look. I’m pissed. Your pissed. But we are just people with no power. Same with all those voters you wanna complain about. All we have is the ability to yell and vote. And while I voted for Harris out of fucking fear, I cannot blame the people who yelled “I will not vote for you if you keep committing genocide” and were fucking CALLED ON THAT SHIT. What kind of monster gambles with their own base over a fucking genocide?

      • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        2 months ago

        Remember when the Dems thought they could win while actively telling people who were anti genocide to go fuck themselves?

        I do, and was downvoted for calling it out from my last account, and this one for remembering it.

        Are these people gaslit or are they doing it for their favorite political celebrities who don’t know they exist or care for them?

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        2 months ago

        As a fellow reluctant Harris voter, what upsets me the most is that the numbers people have run shows that no, actually, genocide was not the deciding factor in this election, which is kind of an indictment of America itself, but regardless, I’m sick of leftists being blamed when all the ones I know STILL voted Harris and the data shows that it wasn’t leftist that didn’t turn out, it was centrists. Harris didn’t have a voter base. Sure, some dems turned out, but she didn’t actually inspire people to vote, and that’s basically the only way dems win.

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          2 months ago

          Why blame the politicians with data and statistics on how to run a campaign when you can blame the voters who showed up?

          How many times do we have to “swallow our pride” to vote for milquetoast candidates before we can have change? How many times do I have to vote for “nothing will fundamentally change” before I can call bullshit?

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            2 months ago

            This exactly. Honestly, the thing I hate most about the republicans isn’t even who they are, it’s who they’ve made us. I’ve compromised on my morals more than I can count just to still be ruled by fascists. I wish I could at least have arrived here on a high horse lmaoooo.

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              2 months ago

              Republicans are obviously fucking evil. They smile as they pass laws that enable the worst parts of the government to be even worse. And then say it’s because of the woke or some shit.

              And then democrats just… Allow it. They then go “our compromise was that we allowed 2% less people to die from this bill being passed. So only 500K will die from this, instead of 501K.”

              And it’s obviously better by numbers, but that’s all they want. Pure data. They don’t care about the optics of actually trying to stop republicans, they want the look of it.

              They don’t want to stop aiding genocide, pretending they care about BIPOC as they say to bipartisan applause “We need to fund the police!” as they kneel for a photo.

              But pass a law that says “Police should obey the laws they enforce” is impossible for them, somehow, no matter how many votes they get.

              I’ve been swindled too many times. Republicans are obvious in that they hate me. Democrats act like a friend and then ghost you.

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                2 months ago

                Wish I had more to add, but you definitely covered it all. It’s just gross. I know fascists win when we disengage, but dems have been teeing this up for them to knock out of the park for decades. I just wish you and yours the best and I hope you’re safe and able to make it through.

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      2 months ago

      Honestly not sure why it hasn’t been suggested that the ‘no vote’ bullshit was a tactic to get Repubs the win. Sure as hell worked and didn’t do anything to solve the issue, as we can blatantly see now.