I’m hearing my family now: "Of course Jesus was Christian! What else would he be? It’d make no sense for him to be in hell. Adam and Eve were Christian too. And Noah and Abraham, and … "
And what else would my family say, well like PKMKII hinted at, if you asked my them about Jesus’ death, they would have no problem giving you a contradictory and fucked up message like: “it was good that Jesus died for our sins (why exactly did he have to, never thought about it), but it was also evil that the jealous Jews did it because they disagreed with Jesus. In fact, that’s what a Jew is you see. Before year 0, everyone was Christian or Pagan. And the people who heard Jesus but rejected him became Jews.”
And yes, they do think that the old testament figures were Christian.
It’s a confused and nonsensical logic because it is both good that Jesus died, but also it happened because Jews rejected him and they did thay because they are bad.
You’re expecting reason from people who don’t have any. Just replace every thought with nonsense and hatred and you can start to understand how they think.
i’ve never cared about it particularly to find out (because i don’t think it’s a sin and i don’t enjoy being well actually nerd), but what would they say that to “jesus knowingly gone to his death, which is suicide”
and church was unaware of that “fact” for 1700 years? that’s very interesting reading of parable of talents, which actually says do shit for god, dipshit, and don’t sit on your ass with your talant hidden in a sand
God wants you to be rich and invest. And the more you invest the closer to God you are. Everything is literal, and commies want you to hate Jesus and money
I think they would probably just contest that logic, as that also would inherently define a huge amount of martyrs as being bound for hell, as well as a lot of da troops and shit like that.
troops are in hell for another reason. nah, obviously theology has answers to this (probably something something will of the father being separate), but i meant more weird american christiansm who take some parts of the bible literally, and some ignoring completely.
thank you for the write up. i figured it was dumb but i don’t want to fall in to the trap of assuming that of things i myself am ignorant on. thanks again for explaining
There isn’t much to explain, or at least it doesn’t seem that way with any fundy I’ve encountered. Some are “smart” in their own twisted way and have theological justifications, but the large majority are not like that. Most just believe in this strange nonsense and never think thay deeply about it. And thats fine, most people are like that with any religion, they got other things to focus on in life. But I’ve found that if the fundy types do “think” about it then it is in such a strange and twisted way that digging into it gives you psychic damage. No need to give them any benefit of the doubt.
I’m hearing my family now: "Of course Jesus was Christian! What else would he be? It’d make no sense for him to be in hell. Adam and Eve were Christian too. And Noah and Abraham, and … "
And what else would my family say, well like PKMKII hinted at, if you asked my them about Jesus’ death, they would have no problem giving you a contradictory and fucked up message like: “it was good that Jesus died for our sins (why exactly did he have to, never thought about it), but it was also evil that the jealous Jews did it because they disagreed with Jesus. In fact, that’s what a Jew is you see. Before year 0, everyone was Christian or Pagan. And the people who heard Jesus but rejected him became Jews.”
And yes, they do think that the old testament figures were Christian.
It’s a confused and nonsensical logic because it is both good that Jesus died, but also it happened because Jews rejected him and they did thay because they are bad.
You’re expecting reason from people who don’t have any. Just replace every thought with nonsense and hatred and you can start to understand how they think.
i’ve never cared about it particularly to find out (because i don’t think it’s a sin and i don’t enjoy being well actually nerd), but what would they say that to “jesus knowingly gone to his death, which is suicide”
Hmm. Idk. But that gives me some good ideas for when I visit them this summer!
getting interest on loans is also sinful
Tried that one before, they just hit me with Jesus was a small business owner (carpenter duh) who played the stock market
and church was unaware of that “fact” for 1700 years?
that’s very interesting reading of parable of talents, which actually says do shit for god, dipshit, and don’t sit on your ass with your talant hidden in a sand
Um aktually you’re wrong
God wants you to be rich and invest. And the more you invest the closer to God you are. Everything is literal, and commies want you to hate Jesus and money
god, 1 a.d.: invest in credit default swaps, you heathen
I think they would probably just contest that logic, as that also would inherently define a huge amount of martyrs as being bound for hell, as well as a lot of da troops and shit like that.
troops are in hell for another reason. nah, obviously theology has answers to this (probably something something will of the father being separate), but i meant more weird american christiansm who take some parts of the bible literally, and some ignoring completely.
thank you for the write up. i figured it was dumb but i don’t want to fall in to the trap of assuming that of things i myself am ignorant on. thanks again for explaining
There isn’t much to explain, or at least it doesn’t seem that way with any fundy I’ve encountered. Some are “smart” in their own twisted way and have theological justifications, but the large majority are not like that. Most just believe in this strange nonsense and never think thay deeply about it. And thats fine, most people are like that with any religion, they got other things to focus on in life. But I’ve found that if the fundy types do “think” about it then it is in such a strange and twisted way that digging into it gives you psychic damage. No need to give them any benefit of the doubt.