The sources provided by our wormy:
https://web.archive.org/web/20240409125822/http://www.xj.jcy.gov.cn/jwgk/gzbg/
it’s in Chinese.
every province in China has a local government, so this is the local government of xinjiang.
it’s very similar to having a state government in the US.
sorry, the articles only a few paragraphs along, try to read it a little more carefully.
or look for the older source that directly links to the protectorate, I have a lot of sources to provide.
you want the 2 million estimates?
here’s one:
https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/china-xinjiang-uyghurs-muslims-repression-genocide-human-rights
Xinjiang High people’s protectorate:
https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/09/14/china-xinjiang-official-figures-reveal-higher-prisoner-count
yes, of course.
the kidnappings and detentions are common knowledge in China and at this point affect nearly every part of the xinjiang population.
there’s a pretty good report by the economist about the culture of fear, they interview uyghur exiles and family members of detainees:
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Where I’m from criminals get punished with candy bars
This is the United States they don’t want you to see.
I’d have picked the pics of cops on horseback overseeing black prison workers at Angola prison like it’s the fucking 1800s
Oh ya that would’ve been way better. But the point is any picture of a prisoner and guards looks scary and authoritarian without context.
OMG WHATABOUTISM!!@$!
whataboutism 
If only people were so passionate about palestine before 2023.
I should head to bed instead of staying up to mock this loser. My predictions: His “Uighur friends” will turn out to be American Muslims who are like third generation immigrants, if he ever actually commits to talking about them at all, instead of just saying “I have a
blackUighur friend, so I’m an expert onracismgenocide.” And of course he will admit at some point that despite saying he has lived in China for years, he never went to Xinjiang, and will probably accidentally reveal that he doesn’t even speak Mandarin.EDIT: A quick peek in after brushing my teeth, looks like he forgot that he mentioned he has “Uighur friends” who told him about this and is just doubling down on this podcast as his only source, I’ve heard of parasocial relationships with podcasters before, but this is ridiculous!
I look forward to the laughs I’ll see in the morning, good luck everyone! I hope you get him to delete his account in shame!
MORNING EDIT: I made another comment with my thoughts, it got a little long. The little bit I saw last night wasn’t just a taste of things to come, it was all he had. I think this guy might win the “most pathetic” award for one of these guys. They keep finding even more pathetic ways to shit their pants so they can laugh at how everyone else is complaining about the smell.
Hello fellow podproganda listeners awaiting the gaslighting memos. Today we are going to go over hearsay, rumors, and how to spread some Wall Street fund manager’s demands 
online.That poster is legit linking to that one creative writing post as some kind of wild verified truth. What always got me laughing about that one was stuff like this:
Her smile faded slowly, “He told me the guards kept him imprisoned, held for months without so much as an interrogation, in an obvious attempt to break his spirit. During his time there, he was forced to learn a prisoners’ code to communicate with anyone. They used Chinese Commercial Code spoken through a series of ‘yelps and stomps’.
Those Chinese are absolute animals. Who locks someone up and doesn’t even have the common decency to torture them? Forces them to learn to communicate with their fellow prisoners via a complicated system of farts and finger-snaps? Can you imagine the absolute horror??? The western mind cannot comprehend it!
Anytime some western dipshit jackass talks about Xinjiang, I keep being reminded of this.
The state of play so far
HB Source please
Doofus i already gave you a fully cited source.
HB No you didn’t. Do you understand what a source is, give us a link
Doofus It’s the comment where i said some half-remembered figures amd another where i linked to an The Economist podcast with two effectively anonymous sources (first name only)
HB that’s not a source, please refer to my first comment
Repeat
“You’ve been found guilty of crimes against VolCell-dom. Off to the ‘milking’ room with you!”
@crazypeople.online
uhh I don’t like the name of this instance
Funny, these rules don’t sound so “crazy” to me. The name is very 2000’s coded for sure.
They’re very evasive. Like Cowbee said, they need to just focus on a couple arguments in a couple comments. They should focus on the HRW article they posted for example, and go through that. Instead, they repeat an argument in one comment, post a source, and then never return to it again. It’s possible they’re afraid of being Sealioned, in which case, like Cowbee said they could ignore all the requests for evidence except for in one comment thread.
Yep, I just wanted them to take any firm cohesive stance and back it up as best they could, that way it could legitimately be said that their claims were thoroughly considered and debunked. As it stands, they stood for nothing, just evasion and implication, so there wasn’t anything to do.
学习黄雪同志好榜样
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml deep in the trenches! Look at those rainbows, folks!
I really tried to get them to make a point, but they dodged everything. Even with the most charitable stance I could take didn’t seem to coax a point out, lol
Yeah, I think posters like this are fueled by their smugness. They’ll follow you deep into the forest of comments to just go, “Nuh uh!
”Makes sense, but honestly is a waste of time for everyone, haha.
Ok sick fucking design of hexbear to form rainbows with replies.
Now I see why hexbear love shit posting, they seek the rainbows.
The rest of the lemmyverse has rainbows too
True, I use another frontend that I didn’t remember how is the default lemmy-ui, but the hexbear has some modifications that looks is better than the one on .ml.
Oh, I was trying to make a joke that the rest of the lemmyverse is very white and lib and their ‘rainbow’ (diversity) is as diverse as different pastel polo shirts on the guys in the emoji. I very very rarely browse outside of hb so I can’t speak to other instances’ UIs
exäctly!
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but… its the Economist! Well known and very highly respected journalism! They’ve never been wrong, you can tell by the authority in which they say the things they say and the words they use to say them!
When talking about the Uighur issue always point out that the US government has spent tens of millions of dollars to radicalize them to terrorist acts. There was a time 2 decades ago where you’d read stories about how some school children died in mass stabbings in “western China” and that is now a thing of the past. At some point China had a moral obligation to take some kind of action to stop these things and they did. Did they set up an investigative branch of their law enforcement to entrap thousands of them in fake plots to “catch” them red handed and then put them away in hardcore prisons for life or deport them to black torture sites around the world like the USA did? No, instead they targeted individuals with a high likelihood for developing extremist beliefs and got them into programs to de-escalate their actions before they got out of hand. Is it perfect? No. In my book China’s method is much more preferable to the west’s racist torment of Muslims.
