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    15 hours ago

    Our allies are fine. I’m learning to dislike my countrymen. Not that there’s a lot of new ground to cover on that subject…

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    18 hours ago

    There is a French saying that perfectly fits current situation :

    You don’t need enemies when you have this kind of friends.

    Although I don’t know if it’s specifically French.

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      17 hours ago

      In English it’s “With friends like these, who needs enemies?”

      Apparently coined by an early 20th century comedian, but I wouldn’t put a lot of stock in that origin.

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    Even democrats going up for canada huh? Fuck man it’s hard not to just give up, it feels like there’s just no hope for us.

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      Maybe the amount of Democrats that see Canada as an enemy is lower than the amount of Republicans that don’t see Canada as an enemy. It’s hard to tell from that graph.

      Additionally, the blue line seems to start ticking up around 2022. I don’t remember if Trump was pushing anti Canada stuff back then, but if he wasn’t, then it’s probably due to something completely unrelated and possibly even reasonable.

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      19 hours ago

      Join the EU! We like you and our respect for you has only gone up (excluding pp)

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        Unfortunately you think I’m the wrong nationality, I’m american. I wish I could just join the EU but y’all won’t take folks for just any old reason lol.

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          18 hours ago

          We’ll take any scientist, nurse and IT pro without a second thought.

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            I’m the IT pro of my circle but that just means I do self hosting as a hobby and it work for the 8 person company I work at since nobody else knows jack, I have no formal post secondary education. As far as I can tell for people like me it’s just stay and fight is the only real option

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              Do you want to work and support yourself? Yes -> start looking for a job (Ireland and the Netherlands are best for you because of your language) No -> please do not move to us.

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      22 hours ago

      Republicans are brainwashed. This sort of thing happens all the time with them, on almost every issue.

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        Both are brainwashed, just in different ways. Republicans are wired for fear. Democrats are wired for passivity.

        The republican version is a lot more dangerous, but the democrat version is a lot more insidious.

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          Ive spent a lot of time in the states and i can tell you unequivocally that all americans afe haddwired for fear. You are extremely jumpy and paranoid people when compared to more modern nations.

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            Fyi, I’m not actually American myself. I agree with you otherwise however.

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    17 hours ago

    Are they fitting the curve on like 3 points for 24 and 25? I don’t think it’s untrue but why publish this with such a low-hanging fruit to delegitimize the argument

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    The fact that they can change their opinion on their close friends based upon what the president says is kind of pathetic. They call everyone else sheeple and brainwashed as they believe everything he says without question. The definition of a cult.

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      22 hours ago

      It’s always – always – projection.

      I used to think it was only sometimes projection or often projection, but lately I’ve realized I was wrong. I literally can’t think of an accusation the MAGAs have used that hasn’t been projection.

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    You could see republicans opinion change drastically and immediately in his first term based on his opinion, and democrat opinion remain relatively the same. When Obama bombed Syria, around 80 percent of Democrats and 80 percent of Republicans disapproved. When trump bombed Syria Democrats moved a few percentage points. It was probably affected, but in the deviations. Republicans swapped from 80/20 disapprove/approve straight to 20/80.

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      22 hours ago

      There was a great chart that showed this sort of phenomenon, I think across a range of issues, but I can’t find it. Can anybody help me out?

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        I know which one you mean I think — a range of charts that showed how conservatives’ principles changed a lot depending on which party was in power while liberals’ stayed fairly consistent. I’ve just spent ages trying to find it too, thought it was on dataisbeautiful but my google-fu is also letting me down.

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        I’m sure you can find many with words analogous to voters, changing, perceptions, opinion polls, etc. I know I’ve seen dozens of examples of conservatives changing their opinions dramatically based on propaganda, while everyone else — the people not indoctrinated with a mental illness — stay relatively static; as in +/- 5% instead of 10-40%.

        You will likely have to use advanced search and the internet archive. Also best to search key propaganda narratives like “migrant caravan”.

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          Yeah, that’s exactly what I’m looking for, but my google-fu (or rather DDG-fu) is failing me. That’s why I’m asking for help.

          You’d think an appropriate chart would come up in a simple image search and not require archive.org. I don’t think it’s been memory-holed; I think I can’t figure out the right search terms.

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    What I find surprising is that it was decreasing before, what happened in 2018?

    EDIT : oh yeah, Trump’s first term started in 2017, I just didn’t realise that time passes so fast

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    Oh look, you can physically see the Democrat shift to the right on the chart.

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      Not that I disagree with the idea of Democrats shifting right, but it’s a very small shift supported by very few data points. The line probably wouldn’t have changed much with more data. OTOH, the Republican spike is way too much to be an outlier.

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    It‘s almost as if other nations prefer you to be tolerant and welcoming towards them. You know, the very basics of diplomacy.

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    now do the same thing with Canadians about mericans . 90 degree upwards i’m guessing.

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    I’m just one guy, but absolutely not me. I hate my fellow Americans a million times more than anyone in Canada, or Europe.

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        Man, looking closely at this is comical. Conservatives are the most flock-minded people on Earth, whatever their taking heads say instantly becomes their new zeitgeist. The irony of conservatives calling everyone else sheep is… Well I guess there’s a reason I so often hear the phrase “every conservative accusation is a confession”.

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          This is the power of the algos.

          I had two Reddit accounts and one was solely used for gaming. Which started to give me feeds completely different then my more left, progressivy main account.

          I would get these heavy metal videos about Mexican rapists that were deported on the one linked with gaming. (A clear conservative take). Showed Canadians as commies / socialist evil staties. Like dudes face - deportation date - what they were convicted of - murder or rape. It was wild.

          And some of my liberal social main account demonstrated or showed a shit load of Canadian content that linked them with MAGA. And consistently highlighted their crimes against indigenous people. With tag lines of like “they want to talk about what we do - look at what they do”.

          so I’m not even sure if the blue line ticking up is “I hate Canadians” or “they are magats too”

          To be clear - am American - hate Americans - hate social media (Lemmy is my last social hope / account left) am team Canada all the way / Europe all the way.