Nobody on hexbear supports a side in this war; they just want it to end, and are bitter about Ukraine’s leadership continuing to hold out while its people keep dying in a war that they can’t win without massive NATO intervention, which is not coming and would cause a nuclear war if it did.
Can you please describe a scenario where Ukraine is able to stop losing territory, re-capture all the territory they want, including Crimea? Remember, we’re years into this and Ukraine’s population has been decimated by emigration and combat losses. If you can’t come up with a plausible path to victory, then continuing to fight only guarantees more death and more lost territory.
You seem to believe what the Western media has been telling you for the past three years: that ebil Putler woke up one day out of nowhere and decided to imperialistically invade Ukraine. Russia didn’t start the war and it didn’t start in 2022 either, it started in 2014 with the US-backed nazi coup in Ukraine. As for your SA comparison, that’s just gross and frankly a strawman argument anyway.
Then go away. We don’t care to have you around because you are clearly just trolling with the same tired NATO approved talking points we have debunked a thousand times over. You are being willfully ignorant at this point so please fine fuck off back to reddit you will be more comfortable there.
Hey how come you only responded to one of the comments when there are several others that tried to address your points? Almost as if you’re a coward and a troll
“I don’t know anything about the arguments on Hexbear, but am still just going to go ahead and make simplistic assumptions about arguments on Hexbear.”
The figurative fist in that analogy is child conscripts being forced at gunpoint into a meatgrinder for the vanity and profit of US-aligned politicians and fascist military leaders, and every time the fist lands they have to go get a new fist because it gets annihilated.
And the war only happened in the first place because they kept taking swings at their neighbor whom they wanted to annex in violation of ceasefire agreements where they promised to stop doing that, while loudly shouting that any day now they’d join a gang and be given nukes, prompting their other neighbor to intercede to stop the existing conflict and prevent them from getting nukes.
It’s more like our stance is based around reality. We also have zero affection for Nazis unlike NATO. Russia is a terrible capitalist state which has more manpower than Ukraine, more weapons than Ukraine and possesses Nuclear Weapons and will not give up Crimea under any circumstance. The war exists solely to benefit the NATO Military Industrial Complex at this point. Ukraine can not afford this war as a people and yet they’re chasing a pipe dream for the sake of American Billionaires.
Additionally, the war is a result of Ukraine not following Minsk 2 agreements and using that time to stall and arm themselves to wage war against the DPR/LPR.
I mean, I hate Putin and the politics of the Russian Federation for the most part, but if they wanted to invade and dismantle Germany right now I’d support it.
Ukraine cannot guarantee anything except losing the war with Russia.
Please rephrase - so that we may appropriately firebomb or praise this post.
It’s currently ambiguous which side this statement supports.
Thank you.
Nobody on hexbear supports a side in this war; they just want it to end, and are bitter about Ukraine’s leadership continuing to hold out while its people keep dying in a war that they can’t win without massive NATO intervention, which is not coming and would cause a nuclear war if it did.
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States aren’t people.
Can you please describe a scenario where Ukraine is able to stop losing territory, re-capture all the territory they want, including Crimea? Remember, we’re years into this and Ukraine’s population has been decimated by emigration and combat losses. If you can’t come up with a plausible path to victory, then continuing to fight only guarantees more death and more lost territory.
Oh look, another liberal that didn’t pay attention to this conflict until 2022.
You seem to believe what the Western media has been telling you for the past three years: that ebil Putler woke up one day out of nowhere and decided to imperialistically invade Ukraine. Russia didn’t start the war and it didn’t start in 2022 either, it started in 2014 with the US-backed nazi coup in Ukraine. As for your SA comparison, that’s just gross and frankly a strawman argument anyway.
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I did address your points, you said Russia started the war and I said they didn’t.
Then go away. We don’t care to have you around because you are clearly just trolling with the same tired NATO approved talking points we have debunked a thousand times over. You are being willfully ignorant at this point so please fine fuck off back to reddit you will be more comfortable there.
And the trash takes itself out. Good job folks.
Hey how come you only responded to one of the comments when there are several others that tried to address your points? Almost as if you’re a coward and a troll
well they are on lemm.ee so…
I know a lot of posters on this site can be uncharitable, but here is a bit more context that might help you understand where they are coming from
“I don’t know anything about the arguments on Hexbear, but am still just going to go ahead and make simplistic assumptions about arguments on Hexbear.”
Gotta be one of my favorite genders
The figurative fist in that analogy is child conscripts being forced at gunpoint into a meatgrinder for the vanity and profit of US-aligned politicians and fascist military leaders, and every time the fist lands they have to go get a new fist because it gets annihilated.
And the war only happened in the first place because they kept taking swings at their neighbor whom they wanted to annex in violation of ceasefire agreements where they promised to stop doing that, while loudly shouting that any day now they’d join a gang and be given nukes, prompting their other neighbor to intercede to stop the existing conflict and prevent them from getting nukes.
It’s more like our stance is based around reality. We also have zero affection for Nazis unlike NATO. Russia is a terrible capitalist state which has more manpower than Ukraine, more weapons than Ukraine and possesses Nuclear Weapons and will not give up Crimea under any circumstance. The war exists solely to benefit the NATO Military Industrial Complex at this point. Ukraine can not afford this war as a people and yet they’re chasing a pipe dream for the sake of American Billionaires.
Additionally, the war is a result of Ukraine not following Minsk 2 agreements and using that time to stall and arm themselves to wage war against the DPR/LPR.
reality is pro-russian by default
Fascist
Ukraine can’t win the war. The longer it goes on, the more of them will die and the more land they will have to surrender.
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That’s because it’s not a statement of support. It’s a statement of material reality.
I mean, I hate Putin and the politics of the Russian Federation for the most part, but if they wanted to invade and dismantle Germany right now I’d support it.