• Inui [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    I had it in background for like an hour before I had to turn it off, but I got the cliff notes of the rest of it. Ethan is such an insufferable dumbass that if anyone told me they were a fan of his, I would start to question our relationship. They’re all bottom feeder Destiny-types who belong in the gulag

    Hasan called him racist during this ‘debate’ when he went off about “the Arabs”, but typically treats him with kid gloves, as did iDubbz. To be fair though, just letting him talk lets everyone else see how full of shit he is. BadEmpanada is the only person who has interacted with him and called him what he is. A disgusting racist and zionist piece of shit, obsessive to a dangerous degree, a neglectful father, an abusive boss. Hila Klein is a terrorist and IOF mouthpiece.

    I can’t wait for him to get wiped from the internet.

    EDIT: People are also too kind to Ethan’s crew. They’re all complicit at this point.

    • Biggay [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      IMO the crew is much worse, they arnt visibly breaking down and spiraling. To me its the difference like actual nazi party officials and white people who fly a confederate flag.

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    Ethan reminds me of a really mean high school bully who cries when he’s called a bully. He was so mean spirited and instantly jumped to blame Hasan for any type of miscommunication while he made annoying sounds any time Hasan tried to speak. I would feel bad for him if he wasn’t literally defending a genocide.

    Also can’t imagine staying for a 4 hour conversation with someone who is so incredibly childish and disrespectful to me as Ethan was to Hasan.

  • GenderIsOpSec [she/her, kit/kit's]@hexbear.net
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    a youtube comment said that it’s a perfect encapsulation of how the DARVO (deny, attack, reverse victim & offender) reaction works, and yeah that’s about right.

    Insanely triggering if you’ve had arguments with narcissists. Hasan finally popped off after like 4h and called KKKlein a fucking racist, so that was neat i guess.

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    Ethan proved himself to be a stupid racist again

    The Anne Frank thing, implying she would be worse if she fought the Nazis, was insane and should be disqualifying

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      “She should have just complied with the officers commands!” Is a wild response to Anne Frank, especially coming from a Jewish person…

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      What the fuck. What could be worse in this asshat’s mind than dying in the Holocaust?

      Flip this on its head. I guess Isreal is worse off fighting the Palestinians than if they didn’t. Very good, Mr. Klein. Let’s have Isreal surrender and give Palestinians complete control of the region!

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    I watched the thing almost in its entirety, then again my mental health is at quite low levels so that’s why I can subject myself to such things and enjoy them.

    My favourite part was when Ethan started to call Hasan antisemitic for platforming the famous so-called “houthi pirate”, pulling clips and old tweets from a currently 19-20 year/old boy from Yemen whom Hasan interviewed, particularly tweets that come accross as antisemitic with messages like “curse upon all Jews”.

    Hasan went on to ask Ethan if he thinks there might be reasons why a 19 year old Yemeni boy who’s only seen violence at the hands of the US Empire (which he criticised heavily in his tweets too) and Israel might be antisemitic, and Ethan refused to engage on that. Then, Hasan brought up Hila (Ethan’s wife) as someone who did her military service in the IDF. For those who don’t know, Hila had an office job at the IDF during her military service at 18-19 years old, and one day she was, and I quote, “bored from her office job” and joined a night raid in Ramallah in which a Palestinian was kidnapped from his home in front of his family.

    Ethan made the connection and he asked whether Hasan is calling his wife a terrorist, to which Hasan responds something like “no, I can understand the reasons why somebody socialised in Israel under Israeli propaganda may get to doing something like that at 18 year-old”, but how the wrong thing is that now as an adult living in the US she’s never come clean about it and apologised and that’s wrong. Ethan is incapable of connecting the two dots, and keeps calling the Houthi guy a terrorist.

    So yeah, he’ll condemn as terrorist someone who supports military resistance against genocide in Palestine, but won’t do the same against his unrepenting war-criminal wife. I think that portrays best his huge bias towards Zionism, and his victimization and complete inability of self-reflection.

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        Because of his Tourettes. A lot of his strange mannerisms are clearly tics, so it’s hard to make any accusations. I know he’s literally asked his crew members on stream to share their Vyvanse/Adderall with him, so he’s most definitely on something.

        It just feels off when I see people post clips of a dude with Tourettes twitching a lot and say “look he’s tweaking”.

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          Ah my apologies. I didn’t realize he had Tourettes. What sort of made me suspicious was the constant sniffing and of course his erratic moods/behavior, but this could probably be explained by his Tourettes.

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    We had a good thing, you stupid son of a bitch! We had Hasan. We had Leftovers. We had everything we needed, and it all ran like clockwork. You could’ve shut your mouth, Bantered, and made as much money as you ever needed. It was perfect. But, no, you just had to blow it up. You and your Zionism and your ego! You just had to be the man. If you’d done your job, known your place, we’d all be fine right now!

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    I watched some of it, mostly seems like Ethan Klein is a narcissistic abuser and a racist that is burning a billion bridges. The fact that he has a whole studio team while Hasan is just some guy seals it for me.

    I hate how often SV comes up in these things, if I were god I would give an aneurysm to any debate bro that debates SV without having experienced it themselves.

    Discussion of Israel SV

    Israel’s claims of SV are of course horrifying. Abusers definitely join military units to abuse their power over others, no matter how valorous the military force may be. SV happens in war, the question should always be if it was ordered and left unpunished and uninvestigated by officers and the military command. In many cases, we can see verified claims of Israel military and intelligence services ordering SV upon even civilian prisoners. Can we say the same of Hamas? If so, then we are at a point where both armies are in extreme fault, we must then default to the anticolonial narrative.

    And even if Hamas were the savage horde they are depicted as, and Israel is shining white and perfect, does that really excuse the wholesale slaughter of every Palestinian? Of fucking course it doesn’t. The war is clearly lopsided.