Trump has argued that only a “stupid person” would not accept the Boeing jet from Qatar.
    • cdf12345@lemm.eeEnglish
      6·
      22 days ago

      While I like your point, how exactly should democrats “fight fire with fire” without compromising morals and ethics?

        • Septimaeus@infosec.pub
          21·
          21 days ago

          I recommend going straight to this point next time. “Punch the bully” is not quite the same message as “fight fire with fire.”

          The former suggests defying explicit power in defense of the weak. That’s a positive message.

          The latter implies beating them at their own game by, for example, “out-corrupting their corruption,” “using fear to reverse-manipulate the masses,” and so forth. Not so positive.

      • Cruxifux@feddit.nl
        47·
        22 days ago

        Maybe look outside of the US for answers to this.

        I swear to god Us Propaganda has put some kind of horse blinder on the brains of its citizens that blocks out anything that doesn’t happen in the USA.

        • Sunsofold@lemmings.worldEnglish
          10·
          22 days ago

          This kind of answer reads an awful lot like ‘You’ll agree with me once you do your own research into vaccines.’ It claims to have an answer but suspiciously refuses to share it.

          • Cruxifux@feddit.nl
            23·
            22 days ago

            Buddy if you’re expecting me to explain to you knowledge that I’ve gained from reading countless books about theory and history over Lemmy just for your personal benefit while being a cunt about it, I don’t know what to tell you man. Not gonna happen. This isn’t “I watched a YouTube conspiracy video/podcast” shit, which I’m guessing is much closer to the truth for your ideology than mine.

            • Sunsofold@lemmings.worldEnglish
              21·
              21 days ago

              My point was simply there is no visible difference between your comment and ones like the paraphrase in mine. You can have ten doctorates. It doesn’t matter. This is the internet. It’s all blindfolded elephant touching on here. Saying ‘you’re wrong’ without support makes you look like an asshole, regardless of your intent or how much weight you think people should give your views. Taking the time to respond, but then not using it to support your claims and, instead, claim the superiority of ‘my time is too valuable to waste on you’ just makes you look like more of an asshole who doesn’t know what they’re talking about. If you don’t want to participate in the conversation, that’s fine, but why pipe up just to say ‘I’m an asshole,’ repeatedly? If you keep saying it, people are going to believe you.

    • corsicanguppy@lemmy.caEnglish
      51·
      22 days ago

      The goal is to emerge from the fight and still be better than the people you were fighting. Otherwise, what’s the point?

      • Spacehooks@reddthat.comEnglish
        3·
        22 days ago

        I get what you are saying. Normally I say sometimes you need a bit of evil to win. Because that’s what needed to reduce the overall harm being done. Cause historically few things happened peacefully.

        This case the whole point is the moral. Can’t compromise that and have people feel they can trust you. Of course that bs works for Trump ill be dictator for a day. What a timeline…

    • rottingleaf@lemmy.world
      3·
      22 days ago

      I myself don’t think right and left correlate with any moral code, similar to green and purple teams in some game.

      But about the post and the humiliation - it’s subjective. People for whom such a gift is not humiliating make up a huge proportion of world leaders. Our time is like that.

      So - if there were some deep wisdom behind “our” system of morals where it is humiliating, we could call Trump stupid. We don’t know if there is, likely not since we are losing a war.

  • TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.comEnglish
    12·
    22 days ago

    There is a difference between being stupid and having no shame. Although one can be both as is proven by the current POTUS.

  • stoy@lemmy.zip
    81·
    22 days ago

    I’ll be very confused if the Secret Service will allow Trump to fly in this plane as long as he is in office.

    This is simply due to that it won’t look the same as either the VC-25As or the VC-25Bs, meaning that the enemies of Trump will know which exact plane Trump is flying in, allowing a lot of threats to come much closer to Trumps plane.

    There is simply not enough time to modify the plane into a VC-25B in time for it to be ready before hopefully Trump no longer is president.

      • rottingleaf@lemmy.world
        5·
        22 days ago

        They exist to protect US Politicians. They are servant soldiers. They do what they’re told. Period.

        That’s not how your state is supposed to work. I’m writing this from Russia, which makes the situation kinda funny, but they are not servants and presidents are not masters.

        Presidents can’t make some decisions. Risking their security this way would endanger the state simply because it’s a disruption if a president gets killed or kidnapped or spied upon or their orders falsified. The secret service is subordinate not to presidents’ whims, but to an institute.

              • stoy@lemmy.zip
                2·
                22 days ago

                Your statement, while absolutely accurate, is not relevant to the discussion.

                However, I will never not upvote a statement that clearly defines the character of a world leader in a succinct and accurate way.

  • MyOpinion@lemm.ee
    6·
    22 days ago

    Trump is a piece of human shit just like the MAGAts that follow him. Except nothing but evil from him.

  • Lodespawn@aussie.zoneEnglish
    51·
    22 days ago

    I think everyone should be pretty happy to let Trump, his entire family and as many of his circle of chums use this plane as much as possible. Maybe someone could even set up some helpful flight watch style applications so everyone can see exactly where it is at all times.