• bitjunkie@lemmy.world
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    2 hours ago

    Freedomlandian here, keep it up. I’m so fucking ashamed of my country. If someone gets butthurt about petty stuff like this, good.

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      13 minutes ago

      I’ll back you up: This likely upsets the right (in both senses of the word) people. This and all the upside-down merch. Keep going you glorious-and-upset-yet-polite people north of the border.

      PS: please keep sending maple syrup, and thank you.

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    5 hours ago

    It’s funny and the Americans being salty about this one, when their country is becoming more and more fascist every day, are even funnier. Get mad about real important things, not this 😂

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      4 hours ago

      Those Americans need to look in a mirror first, with their “freedom fries”, because France decided not to back them in their needless war in Iraq.

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        3 hours ago

        The last bit of this song always takes with me whenever I hear that phrase…

        Freedom fries and burns and scars Liberator goes too far Freedom fries and screams and yells The promised land is a promised hell — Robert Plant from the album Mighty Rearranger

  • pyre@lemmy.world
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    8 hours ago

    while I support Canada boycotting the US, you have to admit this in particular is “freedom fries” tier patriotism. it was embarrassing then, and it is embarrassing now.

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      4 hours ago

      Except back then the US was the aggressor, and now the US is the aggressor. I wouldn’t equivocate “you don’t want to blindly follow me into a pointless war” to “you’re targeting me in a trade war”

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        15 minutes ago

        My point is that neither name change actually sends either message. They’re both weak and pointless, literally inconsequential and completely self contained. Imagine the French being … hurt? annoyed? that fuckwits on the other side of the world doesn’t call fries French Fries… as if they gave a shit before. Same here.

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        5 hours ago

        I would agree if this was Mexico doing it as a response to the gulf thing… then it would have made some sense in context.

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            23 minutes ago

            Yes. Please refer to my original comment, once again, clearly in support of boycotting the US in actually meaningful ways. I say this would be more understandable coming from Mexico because then it would be a jab, against the US unilaterally trying to rename the Gulf of Mexico, so it would make sense to rename something named after America(ns) in return.

            “Oh, you did tariffs and threatening annexation, I shall no longer call this coffee Americano” just doesn’t follow logically. And compared to the threat it is the weakest, lamest, most pathetic form of protest imaginable. That’s my point.

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              17 minutes ago

              You are being too literal.

              A better analogy is to say that it’s as lame as Freedom Fries, but it being aimed at the country that re-labeled the French Fry, so that makes it ironic and much funnier.

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      7 hours ago

      We changed the nane of a product because you haven’t joined us wilding an unjustified war on brown people

      vs.

      We changed the name of a product because you waged an unjustified trade war against us for no reason, even tough we have been your closest alley.

      Not the same.

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        I didn’t question motivations. I already said I support boycotting the US. this is not a method of protest that does anything. it’s lame and stupid. Americano is not even American, nor is it Canadian. it’s just dumb. it’s like saying you remember watching Canadian Pie as a teen.

  • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
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    It should be left Americano. It’s called that because Americans couldn’t handle the stronger coffee or espresso and wanted it watered down. Weak. “Americano” is kinda insulting by itself. But whatever works for you.

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      4 hours ago

      That’s one theory as of why. The other is a lack of coffee supplies during wartime.

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      6 hours ago

      This one is ironic because the macho-mindset of needing to be STRONG and therefor only consuming hard stuff is realy American interpretation of manhood in itself.

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      18 hours ago

      I used to look down on the Americano, but as I got older I realized sometimes I’m more in the mood for one than espresso or a milky drink.

      It’s the same amount of coffee, just in lower concentration. You can also sip on it longer before you run out.

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          More or less, yes. Decades ago, the dominant kind in the US was perk (percolated) but that fell by the wayside1. The only time it makes sense to order an Americano by name here is at a coffee bar where it’s wise to specify how you want your cup made.


          1. Honestly, it’s a tad more eco-friendly but many coffees are just not to people’s tastes like this - you get a very bitter cup this way.

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          I think it’s because most people don’t put as much coffee in the filter as they should and they end up making a weak coffee.

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          I thought the same thing … I thought Americano was basically just an espresso with a lot of water added to it

          One of the reasons why I enjoyed espressos and why a lot of Europeans preferred it was due to the fact that it makes you pee less … same hit of caffeine but no need to go pee every half an hour.

          I will sometimes have a pot of coffee a day at home and every time I do, I end up heading to the toilet to pee just about every hour. I really should just switch to espressos but my wife prefers the drip stuff.

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            22 hours ago

            I thought Americano was basically just an espresso with a lot of water added to it

            I think they mean it’s like a regular “instant” coffee but stronger, rather than like an espresso but “weaker”.

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            22 hours ago

            If the espresso isn’t making you pee, you might just be dehydrated. Caffeine is a diuretic, so it’s going to make you lose some water.

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              The espresso will still make you pee … just less often because there is less liquid to pee out … if you drink two or three cups of liquid, you’re more likely and more often will be going to the toilet.

              If you drink an espresso, you got the hit of caffeine but there is less liquid in the system to want to flush out.

              I spent several holidays in the south of Spain and they have about ten different types and amounts and concentrations of espresso. A Spanish breakfast is basically just an espresso and maybe a pastry because they want to be able to work all morning without a toilet break interrupting them. I learned early on from Spanish people that you can just drink an espresso and then go walking around a city for an hour or two without a break for anything for the toilet or even to eat because you’re so hopped up on caffeine (it acts as a hunger suppressant as well).

              The opposite of that is Americano. I work in a bit of construction and renovation and before going to Europe, I’d fill myself with drip coffee and go to work … work for about an hour then have to take pee breaks. Nothing worse than being on top of a roof with all your gear, in middle of a ton of work and you have to head down to pee … only to do it again and again (it’s the main reason why you will often see construction workers peeing in a corner on the lawn or just out a window or into a gravel pit or use piss jugs around the job site).

              Now I drink an espresso or two if I plan on working at a site for a few hours.

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                The espresso will still make you pee … just less often because there is less liquid to pee out … if you drink two or three cups of liquid, you’re more likely and more often will be going to the toilet.

                You just explained dehydration bro

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              Caffeine isn’t a true diuretic the way alcohol is. It doesn’t dehydrate your body. But it still makes you pee because it irritates your bladder, causing you to pee out whatever was in there.

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        It’s not to say they can’t be delicious and can certainly be nicer than a lot of preparations if it is rooted in a nice espresso shot.

        However, the origin story is that American GIs couldn’t handle espresso and made Italians water it down to make it more like “coffee back home”, hence the name.

        I’d imagine an authentic Canadiano would at least have some cheese curds in it.

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    21 hours ago

    Turkish coffee has been called greek coffee(in Greece and Cyprus) ever since the turkish invasion of Cyprus (50 years ago). New generations of greeks probably arent even aware of that(or it is a neat trivia that some might have heard).