• johncandy1812@lemmy.ca
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    13 hours ago

    What was even the point of putting pressure on Ukraine? They have always been cooperating. Russia’s the one whose word is mud.

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      9 hours ago

      Putin had told Trump that he wants peace and Ukraine does not. Putin and Trump are friends, so Trump knew that what Putin is saying must be true.

      And now he’s shocked to find out that Putin actually is able to lie. (As he always does, but Trump’s understanding is Trump’s understanding…)

      We’ll see how Trump will explain this as Zelenskyj’s fault anyway…

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      11 hours ago

      Maybe it was to help with the push going on in Kursk right now. With loss of intel, maybe that played a role in Ukraine becoming encircled and risk losing it?

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    19 hours ago

    From the CBS article on this:

    “If Putin decides not to support the push for a temporary ceasefire, it will dramatically alter the optics of the war and position Russia as the main obstacle to peace,” Peter Dickinson from the Atlantic Council’s UkraineAlert service, said in analysis Tuesday.

    Who out there thinks anyone but Russia is the ‘main obstacle to peace’? I don’t even think that Russian bots believe they’re not the aggressor. What the fuck happened to rationality or even common sense?

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      19 hours ago

      Who out there thinks anyone but Russia is the ‘main obstacle to peace’?

      MAGA idiots.

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      19 hours ago

      Who out there thinks anyone but Russia is the ‘main obstacle to peace’?

      No one, I really hope. But either way this was a good move from Ukraine to throw the ball to the russians as now the orange guy is thrown in front of the bus with his “i’ll end this war in a day” statement and global pressure is on Russia.

      What the fuck happened to rationality or even common sense?

      Very good question. Let me know too if you find the answer.

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    22 hours ago

    Trump has played one side of Kelogg’s plan, cut off aid to Ukraine if they dont move toward peace. Now lets see if he follows though with the other side of it and dramatically ramp up aid to Ukraine if Russia dont move towards peace.

    I hope he does but I’m not holding my breath.

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      20 hours ago

      Wasn’t he supposed to sanction russia even more for refusing peace?

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      14 hours ago

      It is my understanding the US aid is restored after the Ukraine capitulation to the support blackmail.

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      23 hours ago

      Oh those gamers with their games. Trump playing cards, Rubio plays with a ball, Putin is serious as a brick and Ukrainians are dying.

      How fucking fun it all is.

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        And Vance on his soapbox, “We can solve this with diplomacy.”

        Zelensky somehow face palms with just a facial expression.

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    23 hours ago

    Of course, he isn’t likely - he loved it, when it was uncertainty and confusion for Ukraine, because what he wants out of a deal is a way to position Russia to eventually still eliminate an independent Ukraine altogether. Now that it’s flip-flopping again, and the uncertainty produced by the administration in the US isn’t completely in his favour any more, there’s no reason for them to entertain it at all.